And UHMW is fine too! was Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Posted by
ballendo
on 2003-10-05 05:40:25 UTC
Hello,
UHMW was giving a router problems?!? This is another material that
routers cut day in, day out... (Okay, much of it is HDPE (Boating
accessories, cutting boards, wear strip; but the specs for HDPE and
UHMW overlap, and again my personal experience does not come near
matching this response.) I bet he was trying to take too big a cut.
UHMW is TOUGH, but not hard. Gummy. It "likes" to be cut in shallow
bites; trying to hog it out WILL lead to despair.
When I use my router to mill<G> UHMW, I set the speed to 20K rpm
plus, and go like a bat outta **** feed-wise. Sometimes freezing the
UHMW first helps (in hot weather), but ya gotta watch the dims; if
it's a precision part. So you correct for it, just like any material
where heat changes the dimensions...
BTW, I don't use coolant per se, but do keep a stream of air aimed at
the cut point. I've always believed its real purpose was to clear the
chips, rather than cool (because I useta not use it and things worked
fine then too), but it does help. Carbide tooling for sure.
Hope this helps,
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, R Rogers <rogersmach@y...>
wrote:
a 1/4" cutter you'd need to be well under 2000 Rpm. A friend with a
cabinet shop called me one day for assistance and he was attempting
to machine UHMW (polyethylene) in a big gantry router and it was just
burning up the material. It didnt matter what speeds, feeds, coolant
methods or cutters we used. The spindle was just too fast. Thinking
back, I worked in a shop where they routered aluminum. They were
radiusing the edges of these large plates. It was just a table with a
router below. How well it worked I dont recall. I never used it
myself. I would be very careful with it. Press "cycle start" and run
like hell :-)
it if you have trouble.
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UHMW was giving a router problems?!? This is another material that
routers cut day in, day out... (Okay, much of it is HDPE (Boating
accessories, cutting boards, wear strip; but the specs for HDPE and
UHMW overlap, and again my personal experience does not come near
matching this response.) I bet he was trying to take too big a cut.
UHMW is TOUGH, but not hard. Gummy. It "likes" to be cut in shallow
bites; trying to hog it out WILL lead to despair.
When I use my router to mill<G> UHMW, I set the speed to 20K rpm
plus, and go like a bat outta **** feed-wise. Sometimes freezing the
UHMW first helps (in hot weather), but ya gotta watch the dims; if
it's a precision part. So you correct for it, just like any material
where heat changes the dimensions...
BTW, I don't use coolant per se, but do keep a stream of air aimed at
the cut point. I've always believed its real purpose was to clear the
chips, rather than cool (because I useta not use it and things worked
fine then too), but it does help. Carbide tooling for sure.
Hope this helps,
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, R Rogers <rogersmach@y...>
wrote:
> Of course the best way to prove anything is try it. But, I wouldthink that the router spindle speed would be way too fast, even with
a 1/4" cutter you'd need to be well under 2000 Rpm. A friend with a
cabinet shop called me one day for assistance and he was attempting
to machine UHMW (polyethylene) in a big gantry router and it was just
burning up the material. It didnt matter what speeds, feeds, coolant
methods or cutters we used. The spindle was just too fast. Thinking
back, I worked in a shop where they routered aluminum. They were
radiusing the edges of these large plates. It was just a table with a
router below. How well it worked I dont recall. I never used it
myself. I would be very careful with it. Press "cycle start" and run
like hell :-)
>to
> Ron
>
>
> camfambmw540 <jcameron@f...> wrote:
> Hi all, new to the group...seems like a very excellent group :-)
>
> My name is John; I live in the Chicago area. I have a nice compound
> milling table that I would like to use in a very simple cnc setup.
> My plan is to fabricate a very sturdy z axis for a porter cable
> router (1.75 hp), use the compound milling table as my x-y axis. I
> have 2 nema34 173 oz in stepper motors for the xy, still have yet
> get the z motors. I also have yet to get the controllers or powerinch
> supply. I have a 1 GHz pc dedicated to my shop needs.
>
> I plan on cutting odd shaped holes (1.5"x2.5") into 1/4 and 1/2
> 6061 aluminum. I also would like this setup to be able to assist metimg@k...
> in making a much better cnc sysem (when wife approved funds become
> available).
>
> Question: Does anyone see flaws in my idea? Will I be able to cut
> holes of this size in aluminum (if I go slow and keep lubricant
> constantly sprayed on the metal)? Any suggestions on how to
> fabricate a z axis that will hold a porter cable router (simple
> plans??)
>
> Thanks all...sorry for such newbie questions
>
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Discussion Thread
camfambmw540
2003-10-03 07:59:31 UTC
Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Tyson S.
2003-10-03 09:25:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Tim Goldstein
2003-10-03 09:56:38 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Jon Elson
2003-10-03 10:27:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
camfambmw540
2003-10-03 12:01:16 UTC
Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
camfambmw540
2003-10-03 12:04:00 UTC
Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Tyson S.
2003-10-04 07:47:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
R Rogers
2003-10-04 07:50:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Jon Elson
2003-10-04 22:35:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
ballendo
2003-10-05 05:06:43 UTC
Works fine ! Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
ballendo
2003-10-05 05:19:24 UTC
Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
ballendo
2003-10-05 05:26:21 UTC
Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
ballendo
2003-10-05 05:40:25 UTC
And UHMW is fine too! was Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
ballendo
2003-10-05 05:50:08 UTC
Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
turbulatordude
2003-10-05 06:36:14 UTC
And UHMW is fine too! - UHMW
turbulatordude
2003-10-05 06:45:09 UTC
Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
ballendo
2003-10-05 07:58:33 UTC
Re: And UHMW is fine too! - UHMW
turbulatordude
2003-10-05 08:07:33 UTC
Re: And UHMW is fine too! - UHMW - buttons
Jon Elson
2003-10-05 21:02:57 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
R Rogers
2003-10-05 21:59:57 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] And UHMW is fine too! was Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Tyson S.
2003-10-05 21:59:58 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Jon Elson
2003-10-05 22:56:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
ballendo
2003-10-06 04:42:51 UTC
And UHMW is fine too!
ballendo
2003-10-06 04:46:53 UTC
G1006 was Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
doug98105
2003-10-06 07:03:01 UTC
Re: And UHMW is fine too!
sandeater
2003-10-06 07:43:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Russ Waters
2003-10-06 09:41:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] G1006 was Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Tyson S.
2003-10-06 10:52:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
Tyson S.
2003-10-06 19:11:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] G1006 was Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum
ballendo
2003-10-07 06:08:56 UTC
G1006 was Re: Using a porter cable router to cut aluminum