Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Posted by
Bill Vance
on 2004-07-16 15:08:08 UTC
Ok, I think I've got all the responces figured out, but what about non-linear
applications, say for a rotary table or dividing head? Would that much flexion,
friction, and backlash, etc,. still be present? I can see some, but wouldn't
there be significantly less of it?
Bill
applications, say for a rotary table or dividing head? Would that much flexion,
friction, and backlash, etc,. still be present? I can see some, but wouldn't
there be significantly less of it?
Bill
On Fri Jul 16 09:02:27 2004 Jon Elson wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bill Vance [mailto:ccq@...]
>>Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 4:35 AM
>>To: 2cc@...
>>Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
>>
>>Howdy;
>>
>>I've noted various references to 1000 and 2000 line encoders, but are there
>>any servos that will actually turn one or two thousandths of a turn per
>>step/line?
>>
>>
>>
>Absolutely! The closed-loop system DEMANDS that the encoder be turned
>that small fraaction of a thousandth of a turn. I'm using 1000 line
>encoders
>on my system, which give 4000 quadrature counts per revolution. I can
>generally hold the encoder within +/- 2 counts of the null point. So, the
>ENCODER is being held within a very tight bound of about 1/1000 of
>a turn. But, that has no bearing on table position! It is up to the
>leadscrew
>to force the table to be within the equivalent position, and that may be
>beyond the capabilities of the leadscrew, it's bearings, and the nut.
>I see about .0015" backlash in my 3 axes, which is 30 times the encoder
>resolution. This is NOT a failure of the servo loop to maintain encoder
>position, but a failure of the leadscrew to constrain the table to an
>equivalent precision. Much of it is due to flex in the mechanical
>mounting, compression of the leadscrew itself (it is .895" dia),
>backlash in the ballnuts and rocking of the table. If the ways are
>perfectly flat, this rocking won't happen, but my 1938 Bridgeport
>is quite worn. The table and saddle are all worn in odd convex and
>concave shapes.
>
>Jon
--
********************************************************************************
* *
RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19!
* *
********************************************************************************
An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his
hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a
on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ
********************************************************************************
Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!
********************************************************************************
Discussion Thread
Bill Vance
2004-07-16 02:31:09 UTC
Encoder/Servo question
Leslie Watts
2004-07-16 05:29:38 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Joe Hlebasko
2004-07-16 05:34:15 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Jon Elson
2004-07-16 09:05:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Gregory Kamysz
2004-07-16 13:54:00 UTC
Milling table
jrunyan02
2004-07-16 14:53:52 UTC
Re: Milling table
AbbyKatt
2004-07-16 15:04:33 UTC
Coolant on a little desktop mill (ie a Sherline)
Bill Vance
2004-07-16 15:08:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Leslie Watts
2004-07-16 16:30:24 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Svenne
2004-07-16 17:36:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Coolant on a little desktop mill (ie a Sherline)
JanRwl@A...
2004-07-16 17:38:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Coolant on a little desktop mill (ie a Sherline)
Bill Vance
2004-07-16 21:19:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Jon Elson
2004-07-16 21:25:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Jon Elson
2004-07-16 21:37:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Coolant on a little desktop mill (ie a Sherline)
Leslie Watts
2004-07-17 03:40:43 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Bill Vance
2004-07-17 05:50:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Encoder/Servo question
Felice Luftschein and Nicholas Carter
2004-07-17 09:47:21 UTC
Re: Coolant on a little desktop mill (ie a Sherline)
Bob McKnight
2004-07-18 17:40:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Milling table
GLM590620@A...
2004-07-19 01:26:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Coolant on a little desktop mill (ie a Sherline)
Aaron
2004-07-19 14:19:57 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Coolant on a little desktop mill (ie a Sherline)