Re: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Recommended CAM software? - BobCad
Posted by
Ted Gregorius
on 2004-09-20 09:26:28 UTC
Try using Bob Cad for a complex, many layer, revenue producing job.
Crashing is not an option in this scenario.
Support and / or updates for the hundreds of known bugs have never been offered.
Their support forum will delete any message that portrays Bobcad in a bad light.
After a number of support issues They agreed to upgrade me to version 19 at no charge.
Happy to see many of the old bugs fixed bugs we were able to create lists of new bugs in just a few days. These were verified and acknowledged but have yet to be fixed. I doubt they ever will until that want you to pay for the next version.
Again, they are aware of the bugs but there never seems to be any fixes.
I've been doing this a for lot of years. IMO BobCad is at best an entry level program that will frustrate anyone with real Cad-Cam experience. If crashing and loss of your work is acceptable then go for it.
Their aggressive marketing is unbearable. I have told them to stop calling me. After a two month period with no phone calls, no faxes, and no emails I thought they were finally off my back. Friday I get a call and the guy starts out with ' I know you asked us not to call but I was wondering if you heard about ArtCam....".
BTW, the last time I looked the Mach2 post was not available and the Mach1 post was broken. ( I do have a working post for Mach 2 now)
If your happy with BobCad that's fantastic but I think you'll find that you are in the minority.
Ok, I feel better now. Sorry for the rant
Ted
. ----- Original Message -----
From: R Rogers
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Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Recommended CAM software? - BobCad
Ted,
That surprises me. I've been using Bobcad V18 for about 3 months now and I'm happy with it. I bought the training CD's and I havent needed support except once. And that was for a post processor and they told me it was on the website. I think its an excellent program for general machining. It crashes occasionally if you try to make it do something the wrong way. And thats only on the 3-D portion. All CAD/CAM programs have a learning curve. I'm sure there are better programs but not for what Bobcad costs. Really good CAM programs are like 30 thousand dollars, I cant imagine how much better they would be. And seriously doubt they offer a post processor for Mach2. It would have to be learned also. I asked Bobcad about activation of their software sold elsewhere and it is like 150 dollars.
Ron
Ted Gregorius <ted@...> wrote:
If it were only true.
I have 18 and 19. Both junk. Both for sale cheap.
But, I doubt if you can get them activated. So here they sit, a complete waste of my time and money.
Ted
Crashing is not an option in this scenario.
Support and / or updates for the hundreds of known bugs have never been offered.
Their support forum will delete any message that portrays Bobcad in a bad light.
After a number of support issues They agreed to upgrade me to version 19 at no charge.
Happy to see many of the old bugs fixed bugs we were able to create lists of new bugs in just a few days. These were verified and acknowledged but have yet to be fixed. I doubt they ever will until that want you to pay for the next version.
Again, they are aware of the bugs but there never seems to be any fixes.
I've been doing this a for lot of years. IMO BobCad is at best an entry level program that will frustrate anyone with real Cad-Cam experience. If crashing and loss of your work is acceptable then go for it.
Their aggressive marketing is unbearable. I have told them to stop calling me. After a two month period with no phone calls, no faxes, and no emails I thought they were finally off my back. Friday I get a call and the guy starts out with ' I know you asked us not to call but I was wondering if you heard about ArtCam....".
BTW, the last time I looked the Mach2 post was not available and the Mach1 post was broken. ( I do have a working post for Mach 2 now)
If your happy with BobCad that's fantastic but I think you'll find that you are in the minority.
Ok, I feel better now. Sorry for the rant
Ted
. ----- Original Message -----
From: R Rogers
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Recommended CAM software? - BobCad
Ted,
That surprises me. I've been using Bobcad V18 for about 3 months now and I'm happy with it. I bought the training CD's and I havent needed support except once. And that was for a post processor and they told me it was on the website. I think its an excellent program for general machining. It crashes occasionally if you try to make it do something the wrong way. And thats only on the 3-D portion. All CAD/CAM programs have a learning curve. I'm sure there are better programs but not for what Bobcad costs. Really good CAM programs are like 30 thousand dollars, I cant imagine how much better they would be. And seriously doubt they offer a post processor for Mach2. It would have to be learned also. I asked Bobcad about activation of their software sold elsewhere and it is like 150 dollars.
Ron
Ted Gregorius <ted@...> wrote:
If it were only true.
I have 18 and 19. Both junk. Both for sale cheap.
But, I doubt if you can get them activated. So here they sit, a complete waste of my time and money.
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: kenneth lambert
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 12:19 AM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Recommended CAM software?
you mean one can sell their copy of bob cad ?
www.lambertsrc.com
thanks Kenneth
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Ted Gregorius
2004-09-20 07:55:13 UTC
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