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Re: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Recommended CAM software? - BobCad

Posted by R Rogers
on 2004-09-20 11:21:47 UTC
Ted Gregorius <ted@...> wrote:
Try using Bob Cad for a complex, many layer, revenue producing job.

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I have and I admit it is weak in that area. But, you get what you pay for. If I was doing complex 50 thousand dollar molds, I wouldnt be using Bobcad. And If I did I sure wouldnt let my customer know it. I'd get a full blown Cad/Cam package. For the majority of general machining tasks that are revenue producing its more than ample. It paid for itself on the first few jobs for me. It's all just a matter of preference and what you intend to do with it.

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Crashing is not an option in this scenario.

Support and / or updates for the hundreds of known bugs have never been offered.

Their support forum will delete any message that portrays Bobcad in a bad light.

After a number of support issues They agreed to upgrade me to version 19 at no charge.

Happy to see many of the old bugs fixed bugs we were able to create lists of new bugs in just a few days.

///// Could you post that list? It would be handy for the future as I would know if its me or the software in error.

These were verified and acknowledged but have yet to be fixed. I doubt they ever will until that want you to pay for the next version.

Again, they are aware of the bugs but there never seems to be any fixes.

I've been doing this a for lot of years. IMO BobCad is at best an entry level program

// Agreed

that will frustrate anyone with real Cad-Cam experience. If crashing and loss of your work is acceptable then go for it.

Their aggressive marketing is unbearable. I have told them to stop calling me. After a two month period with no phone calls, no faxes, and no emails I thought they were finally off my back. Friday I get a call and the guy starts out with ' I know you asked us not to call but I was wondering if you heard about ArtCam....".

BTW, the last time I looked the Mach2 post was not available and the Mach1 post was broken. ( I do have a working post for Mach 2 now)

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I have the post processor for Mach2 and it works great. <shrug>

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If your happy with BobCad that's fantastic but I think you'll find that you are in the minority.

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It sure beats no CadCam program. What are the alternatives? I reviewed several over about a one year period and I admit upon first experience with Bobcad I didnt like it. However, all the other affordable packages that I demo'd were even more confusing or looked like shareware. When the dust settled Bobcad looked like the best of the bunch. So what are you using now?

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Ok, I feel better now. Sorry for the rant

Ted

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Ted,

That surprises me. I've been using Bobcad V18 for about 3 months now and I'm happy with it. I bought the training CD's and I havent needed support except once. And that was for a post processor and they told me it was on the website. I think its an excellent program for general machining. It crashes occasionally if you try to make it do something the wrong way. And thats only on the 3-D portion. All CAD/CAM programs have a learning curve. I'm sure there are better programs but not for what Bobcad costs. Really good CAM programs are like 30 thousand dollars, I cant imagine how much better they would be. And seriously doubt they offer a post processor for Mach2. It would have to be learned also. I asked Bobcad about activation of their software sold elsewhere and it is like 150 dollars.

Ron


Ted Gregorius wrote:
If it were only true.

I have 18 and 19. Both junk. Both for sale cheap.

But, I doubt if you can get them activated. So here they sit, a complete waste of my time and money.

Ted


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you mean one can sell their copy of bob cad ?


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thanks Kenneth



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