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G200X schematics? was Re: USB ports ?

on 2004-12-05 16:59:32 UTC
Ballendo,

Your'e welcome, as always.

The G200X "open source" concept has turned into a disaster because of
my mismanegent of the project. A good manager would have identified
talent, encouraged them, acted as a clearinghouse to get the talent
to work together in concert towards a common goal. It required a
good "people person" to execute that difficult job. I didn't do that
and in retrospect I realize I wasn't up to the required job
description.

Instead, my missmanagement attracted sharks and bottom-feeders. The
ones that want what has been done and even more; they didn't have the
generosity of spirit to return anything to the project themselves;
they were the one-way street kind of people. In a word, it's a mess
and I'm ready to fold it up.

It'll be taken care of the conventional way now. Be looking for it in
April. It will be very cool.

Mariss


--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "ballendo" <ballendo@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> Mariss,
>
> Thank you for the reply.
>
> Ballendo
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mariss Freimanis"
> <mariss92705@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Ballendo,
> >
> > The "spiffed-up" schematics are internal to the FPGA. They are
the
> > template for generating FPGA code and do not have any physical
> > reality beyond that. Because I'm paying $$$ for that coding, I
keep
> > the resulting code.
> >
> > Once it's done, the resulting G200X board schematic will be made
> > available as before.
> >
> > The only difference between what exists now (74HC series logic
> > implementation) and the new one (FPGA implementation) is how the
> > concept is physically expressed. The concept itself has been
openly
> > described and remains unchanged.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Mariss
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "ballendo"
<ballendo@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Mariss,
> > >
> > > Congratulations on the G204V "completion". It's sure to be a
> market
> > > beater...
> > >
> > > Re: G200X
> > > Since this has been an open source project from the beginning,
I
> > > expect we'll soon be seeing those "spiffed-up" schematics on
the
> > > Geckodrive group website?
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,
> > >
> > > Ballendo
> > >
> > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mariss Freimanis"
> > > <mariss92705@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm happy I'm finally back on it again. It's been 1 year and
12
> > > days.
> > > > The time elapsed was spent designing the G204V Vampire drive;
> > that
> > > > design was finally "put to bed" Wednesday.
> > > >
> > > > We had a little party here Wednesday nite when the gerber
files
> > > were
> > > > e-mailed to the board fabricators. In 2 weeks we get the
first
> > > 1,000
> > > > board-sets and then the real fun begins.
> > > >
> > > > In the meantime I've been killing time writing the G204V
user's
> > > > manual and generating 3D renderings of the solids model.
> > > >
> > > > Also I've been catching up with where I left off on the
G2002,
> > > > cleaning up the schematic diagrams to get them spiffed-up
> enough
> > to
> > > > code into an FPGA. That is done and the coding has begun.
> > > >
> > > > The G2002 should progress very rapidly. I did a time chart
for
> > the
> > > > project; I'm shooting for a 4-month time frame to first
article.
> > > >
> > > > An exciting prospect is the "unstallable stepper" idea the
> G2002
> > > > should make possible. A true closed-loop, real time encoder
> > > feedback
> > > > stepper system.
> > > >
> > > > This coming year will be exciting.
> > > >
> > > > Mariss
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Peter Homann
> > <groups@h...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Mariss,
> > > > >
> > > > > I should have realised you had it covered. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mariss Freimanis wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not a problem, 100mA is current to spare. The 100mA
outputs
> > are
> > > > open-
> > > > > > drain and diode clamped to the 24VDC power supply of your
> > > choice.
> > > > You
> > > > > > supply the 24VDC to run your relays or whatever, that is
> not
> > > > taken
> > > > > > from the USB 5VDC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mariss
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Peter Homann
> > > > <groups@h...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Hi Mariss,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>You will need to add an alternative power source, such as
a
> > > wall
> > > > > >
> > > > > > adapter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>or other power supply. The USB specification imposes
limits
> > on
> > > > > >
> > > > > > current
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>draw. The host first recognizes any peripheral as a low-
> power
> > > > > >
> > > > > > device,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>which is limited to less than 100 mA of current. The
> > peripheral
> > > > can
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ask
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>the host to recognize it as a high-power device through a
> > > process
> > > > > >
> > > > > > called
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>enumeration. Once enumeration is complete and permission
is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > granted, the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>peripheral current limitation increases to 500 mA.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Even 500mA is not enough for 16 outputs at 100mA each,
let
> > > alone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>other power requirements of the G2002.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Cheers,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Peter.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mariss Freimanis wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>Hi,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>The G204V "Vampire" drive design is finished. The first
> 100
> > > beta
> > > > > >>>units will be available at the beginning of January.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>That means I'm back on the G2002 (G2005?) project. The
> FPGA
> > > for
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>design is being coded right now. In summary, the G2002
> will
> > > have:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>1) 6 axis of step / direction (up to 4 MHz step rate)
> > > > > >>>2) 6 axies of encoder feedback (CH-A, CH-B, Index and
> Fault)
> > > > > >>>3) 8 analog output channels (+/-10V, 0-5V)
> > > > > >>>4) 8 analog input channels (0-5V)
> > > > > >>>5) 16 general purpose outputs (5-24VDC, 100mA)
> > > > > >>>6) 16 general purpose inputs (+/- 100V protected)
> > > > > >>>7) USB interface, USB powered
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Mariss
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson
> > <elson@p...>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>R Rogers wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>Wasn't Art Fenerty working on a system like this for
> > Mach2?
> > > He
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>referred to it as a "cube" or something like that?
> Basically
> > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > remote
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>pulse generator. However, I understood it was to work
from
> > the
> > > > > >>>parallel port. Maybe he already released it and I'm
> unaware
> > of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>Yes, hardware by Mariss Freimanis of Gecko Drives,
called
> > the
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>G2002, I
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>think. There is a group
> > > > > >>>>of people working on it. It runs through the USB, I
> > believe.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Jon
> > > > > >>>
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