Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
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      cnc_4_me
    
  
  
    on 2005-02-04 10:49:00 UTC
  
  --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson <elson@p...> wrote:
is proportional to current and I agree with this. But I came to a
different conclusion on the end torque with lower voltage.
Since you are running the motor aprox 38% below rated voltage you
cannot push the amps thru the motor to get full torque.
I left out the current ratting before but here it is 18.5 amp.
Armature resistance would be 130vdc / 18.5A = 7 ohm. At 80vdc and 7
ohm you can only make 11.4 amps. The torque per amp is 373 0z-in /
18.5 = 20 oz-in. At 11.4 amps max current you get 11.4 x 20 oz-in =
230 oz-in.
If we use your speed reduction number above 61.5% and multiply it
times the torque of 373 oz-in we get 229.4 oz-in. Seems to agree
with ohms law calcs.
Wally
> cnc_4_me wrote:torque is
> >
> >1) You have a treadmill motor rated 130VDC, 2.5HP 6700RPM, and
> > 373 oz-in continuous.
> >
> >2) The motor is run from a 80VDC power supply.
> >
> >
> I believe the treadmill motor in question is a PM motor. The
> proportionalfall
> to current, the speed is proportional to voltage. The speed would
> to 61.5% orI looked this over again and have a new conclusionÂ…As you say torque
> 4123 RPM. The torque available would still be 373 Oz-In.
>
> Jon
is proportional to current and I agree with this. But I came to a
different conclusion on the end torque with lower voltage.
Since you are running the motor aprox 38% below rated voltage you
cannot push the amps thru the motor to get full torque.
I left out the current ratting before but here it is 18.5 amp.
Armature resistance would be 130vdc / 18.5A = 7 ohm. At 80vdc and 7
ohm you can only make 11.4 amps. The torque per amp is 373 0z-in /
18.5 = 20 oz-in. At 11.4 amps max current you get 11.4 x 20 oz-in =
230 oz-in.
If we use your speed reduction number above 61.5% and multiply it
times the torque of 373 oz-in we get 229.4 oz-in. Seems to agree
with ohms law calcs.
Wally
Discussion Thread
  
    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-03 22:32:41 UTC
  Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    turbulatordude
  
2005-02-04 06:07:16 UTC
  Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    Stephen Wille Padnos
  
2005-02-04 06:55:50 UTC
  Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 07:46:41 UTC
  Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    Stephen Wille Padnos
  
2005-02-04 08:29:45 UTC
  Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    victorlorenzo@y...
  
2005-02-04 08:45:44 UTC
  Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    Jon Elson
  
2005-02-04 09:17:53 UTC
  Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    R Rogers
  
2005-02-04 09:26:05 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 10:49:00 UTC
  Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    R Rogers
  
2005-02-04 12:20:04 UTC
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    R Rogers
  
2005-02-04 12:37:18 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 12:52:05 UTC
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    Polaraligned
  
2005-02-04 13:04:36 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 13:06:56 UTC
  Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 13:19:24 UTC
  Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    R Rogers
  
2005-02-04 13:29:22 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 15:02:22 UTC
  Z axis force
  
    R Rogers
  
2005-02-04 15:43:31 UTC
  Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Z axis force
  
    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 15:50:19 UTC
  Re: Z axis force
  
    R Rogers
  
2005-02-04 16:00:06 UTC
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    R Rogers
  
2005-02-04 16:36:31 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 17:04:47 UTC
  Re: Z axis force
  
    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 17:09:45 UTC
  Re: Z axis force
  
    R Rogers
  
2005-02-04 17:59:19 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 18:23:13 UTC
  Re: Z axis force
  
    Jon Elson
  
2005-02-04 19:36:30 UTC
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    Stephen Wille Padnos
  
2005-02-04 20:00:06 UTC
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    Jon Elson
  
2005-02-04 20:09:41 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-04 20:45:22 UTC
  Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    Stephen Wille Padnos
  
2005-02-04 21:52:28 UTC
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    Polaraligned
  
2005-02-05 05:27:02 UTC
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    Lance Hopper
  
2005-02-05 06:15:18 UTC
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    R Rogers
  
2005-02-05 07:08:03 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-05 11:11:22 UTC
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    cnc_4_me
  
2005-02-05 11:18:10 UTC
  Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
  
    R Rogers
  
2005-02-05 14:28:48 UTC
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    Jon Elson
  
2005-02-05 17:15:52 UTC
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    Jon Elson
  
2005-02-05 17:28:49 UTC
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    Jon Elson
  
2005-02-05 17:52:25 UTC
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    R Rogers
  
2005-02-05 18:08:43 UTC
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