Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Posted by
R Rogers
on 2005-02-05 14:28:48 UTC
2500 RPM at 100 volts. I'm running them at 64 volts which is 64% of the nameplate voltage. 2500 X 64=1600 RPM. 1600RPM / 2.5:1 reduction = 640 RPM at the screw / 5 tpi =128 ipm. And due to the abundant torque of X and Y it gets all of it. I have them set at 100 ipm. Plenty fast.
Ron
cnc_4_me <cnc4me@...> wrote:
Good post Ron, could you do us 1 more favor and tell us the max rpm
your servos are rated for...
Wally
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wrote:
different sized motors react under different circumstances. Simple
sheave mouted on shaft with a cable that lifts a weight. A variac to
vary the DC voltage. I'm guessing for X and Y on a Bridgeport that
even a nema 23 sized motor of considerable power would suffice. With
the proper ratio any servo would work. It just boils down to the
rapids that will be achieved. It just doesnt require all that much
power for X and Y. In my case, I'm using 40 lb-in motors on X and Y
with a 2.5:1 ratio and they are way overkill. I can run roughers all
day in steel and the motors never even get warm. Which shows they are
doing nothing more than basically freewheeling. Driving the knee for
Z on the other hand is a totally different situation. Drilling holes
all day, the 40 in-lb motor with 2.5:1 on the knee reduction gets
warm, not hot but very warm. So, I conclude using a
smaller servo may work for this but it will generate more heating and
may cause problems and only be suitable for short periods of service.
Unless the reduction were increased proportional to the smaller
motors size with slower rapids.
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Ron
cnc_4_me <cnc4me@...> wrote:
Good post Ron, could you do us 1 more favor and tell us the max rpm
your servos are rated for...
Wally
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wrote:
> With all the discussion about servo power. Someone needs to and Imay when I get time. Do some testing and just find out how a few
different sized motors react under different circumstances. Simple
sheave mouted on shaft with a cable that lifts a weight. A variac to
vary the DC voltage. I'm guessing for X and Y on a Bridgeport that
even a nema 23 sized motor of considerable power would suffice. With
the proper ratio any servo would work. It just boils down to the
rapids that will be achieved. It just doesnt require all that much
power for X and Y. In my case, I'm using 40 lb-in motors on X and Y
with a 2.5:1 ratio and they are way overkill. I can run roughers all
day in steel and the motors never even get warm. Which shows they are
doing nothing more than basically freewheeling. Driving the knee for
Z on the other hand is a totally different situation. Drilling holes
all day, the 40 in-lb motor with 2.5:1 on the knee reduction gets
warm, not hot but very warm. So, I conclude using a
> 2.5:1 ratio driving the knee that a 40in-lb motor is a perfectsize with 60 ipm rapids without gas springs or counterweights. A
smaller servo may work for this but it will generate more heating and
may cause problems and only be suitable for short periods of service.
Unless the reduction were increased proportional to the smaller
motors size with slower rapids.
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> Ron
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Discussion Thread
cnc_4_me
2005-02-03 22:32:41 UTC
Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
turbulatordude
2005-02-04 06:07:16 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 06:55:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 07:46:41 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 08:29:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
victorlorenzo@y...
2005-02-04 08:45:44 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 09:17:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 09:26:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 10:49:00 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 12:20:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 12:37:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 12:52:05 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Polaraligned
2005-02-04 13:04:36 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 13:06:56 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 13:19:24 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 13:29:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 15:02:22 UTC
Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 15:43:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 15:50:19 UTC
Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 16:00:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 16:36:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 17:04:47 UTC
Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 17:09:45 UTC
Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 17:59:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 18:23:13 UTC
Re: Z axis force
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 19:36:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 20:00:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 20:09:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 20:45:22 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 21:52:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Polaraligned
2005-02-05 05:27:02 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Lance Hopper
2005-02-05 06:15:18 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 07:08:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-05 11:11:22 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-05 11:18:10 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 14:28:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:15:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:28:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:52:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 18:08:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.