Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
Posted by
R Rogers
on 2005-02-04 17:59:19 UTC
cnc_4_me <cnc4me@...> wrote:
With the .1 lead on your acme it is aprox = to a .2 lead ballscrew
for force needed...And it didn't cost you anything...
with your setup, acme screw and .1 lead, and a 1000lbs. It takes
31.85 in-lb to move the table, this does not include acceleration.
And you have 25.6 lb-in x 2.5 reduction = 64 in-lb available.
So yes. i can see were this would work, your only limiting factor is
acceleration, after that it would be RPM. With 2500 RPM servo
and .1" lead and 2.5-1 belt. You should get 100 IPM rapid on your
knee...
100 volt servo, 2500 RPM. 64 VDC supply. 64% of 2500=1600. 1600/2.5 reduction =640 / by 10 revs per inch=64 ipm. What it does.
Wally
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, R Rogers
wrote:
in
torque rating with a 64 VDC supply. Using the above calcualtion, I'm
only
getting 64% of the stated torque. Which is 25.6 lb-in. It drives the
Z at 60 ipm
just as Ajax claimed a 40 lb-in motor would at full voltage.
Calculations and
theories aside, it works. Remember,the knee table and vise weigh
approximately 800 lbs. then add a few hundred pounds force of a
drillbit
plunging steel. The little Gecko320 tolrates this, much to my
amazement. ///Ron> >
/// Also, The servo is 2500 RPM. 2500 X 64% = 1600 RPM divided by 10
revs per
inch on the Z axis = 160 divided by 2.5 belt reduction= 64 ipm.
Exactly, what I
can achieve. Ron///
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With the .1 lead on your acme it is aprox = to a .2 lead ballscrew
for force needed...And it didn't cost you anything...
with your setup, acme screw and .1 lead, and a 1000lbs. It takes
31.85 in-lb to move the table, this does not include acceleration.
And you have 25.6 lb-in x 2.5 reduction = 64 in-lb available.
So yes. i can see were this would work, your only limiting factor is
acceleration, after that it would be RPM. With 2500 RPM servo
and .1" lead and 2.5-1 belt. You should get 100 IPM rapid on your
knee...
100 volt servo, 2500 RPM. 64 VDC supply. 64% of 2500=1600. 1600/2.5 reduction =640 / by 10 revs per inch=64 ipm. What it does.
Wally
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, R Rogers
wrote:
>have
>
> cnc_4_me wrote:
>
> I am getting posts mixed up...Tell me again, what machine do you
> and what weight are you saying knee is...////I'm running a 100 volt 13.7 continual amps servo rated at 40 lb -
>
> Wally
>
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, R Rogers
> wrote:
> > Its an acme screw on Z.
> >
> > cnc_4_me wrote:
> >
in
torque rating with a 64 VDC supply. Using the above calcualtion, I'm
only
getting 64% of the stated torque. Which is 25.6 lb-in. It drives the
Z at 60 ipm
just as Ajax claimed a 40 lb-in motor would at full voltage.
Calculations and
theories aside, it works. Remember,the knee table and vise weigh
approximately 800 lbs. then add a few hundred pounds force of a
drillbit
plunging steel. The little Gecko320 tolrates this, much to my
amazement. ///Ron> >
/// Also, The servo is 2500 RPM. 2500 X 64% = 1600 RPM divided by 10
revs per
inch on the Z axis = 160 divided by 2.5 belt reduction= 64 ipm.
Exactly, what I
can achieve. Ron///
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Discussion Thread
cnc_4_me
2005-02-03 22:32:41 UTC
Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
turbulatordude
2005-02-04 06:07:16 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 06:55:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 07:46:41 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 08:29:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
victorlorenzo@y...
2005-02-04 08:45:44 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 09:17:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 09:26:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 10:49:00 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 12:20:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 12:37:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 12:52:05 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Polaraligned
2005-02-04 13:04:36 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 13:06:56 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 13:19:24 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 13:29:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 15:02:22 UTC
Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 15:43:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 15:50:19 UTC
Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 16:00:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 16:36:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 17:04:47 UTC
Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 17:09:45 UTC
Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 17:59:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 18:23:13 UTC
Re: Z axis force
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 19:36:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 20:00:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 20:09:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 20:45:22 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 21:52:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Polaraligned
2005-02-05 05:27:02 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Lance Hopper
2005-02-05 06:15:18 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 07:08:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-05 11:11:22 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-05 11:18:10 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 14:28:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:15:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:28:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:52:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 18:08:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.