Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Posted by
cnc_4_me
on 2005-02-04 20:45:22 UTC
Since I made that post I researched how to calculate "torque to
linier force." And came up with the followingÂ…The 90% efficiency
number is realistic, I got it out of a ballscrew catalog. The
equation agrees with the numbers Rockford ballscrew gave me so I am
confident the equation is correct. The 50% efficiency number is just
something I found in a forum and have no way to know if it is correctÂ…
T = Torque in in-lb
L = lead, 5 TPI screw = .2" lead. 10 TPI screw = .1" lead.
W = Weight in lbs
E = Efficiency, ballscrew = .9, acme screw aprox .5
Amount of torque needed to move a weight on a screw.
T = (W X Lead) / (2pi x Efficiency)
Example, 750Lb knee, 5TPI ballscrew
(750lb x .2) / (2pi x .90) = 26.5 lb-in = 3.0Nm
Amount of linier force in Lbs a screw will make, with a given torque
on it.
Force (lbs) = (in-lb x 6.28 x Efficiency) / Lead
Example, using numbers from above equation, to cross check.
(26.5 x 6.28 x .9) / .2 = 749 Lb
Wally
linier force." And came up with the followingÂ…The 90% efficiency
number is realistic, I got it out of a ballscrew catalog. The
equation agrees with the numbers Rockford ballscrew gave me so I am
confident the equation is correct. The 50% efficiency number is just
something I found in a forum and have no way to know if it is correctÂ…
T = Torque in in-lb
L = lead, 5 TPI screw = .2" lead. 10 TPI screw = .1" lead.
W = Weight in lbs
E = Efficiency, ballscrew = .9, acme screw aprox .5
Amount of torque needed to move a weight on a screw.
T = (W X Lead) / (2pi x Efficiency)
Example, 750Lb knee, 5TPI ballscrew
(750lb x .2) / (2pi x .90) = 26.5 lb-in = 3.0Nm
Amount of linier force in Lbs a screw will make, with a given torque
on it.
Force (lbs) = (in-lb x 6.28 x Efficiency) / Lead
Example, using numbers from above equation, to cross check.
(26.5 x 6.28 x .9) / .2 = 749 Lb
Wally
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson <elson@p...> wrote:
> cnc_4_me wrote:
>
> >I was talking a 9 x 42 bridgport knee...Big difference wow....
> >
> >I have not learned the calculations for force thru a ballscrew
yet.
> >That would tell us how much torque you really need...
> >
> >
> >
> I use a totally screwy way to do this, but it works for me. The
standard
> Bridgeport leadscrew and many ballscrews are 5 TPI, or 0.200" lead.
> A pulley that would advance a string .200" per turn would have a
pitch
> diameter of .200 / (2 * Pi) = 0.0318" Obviously not a really
practical
> pulley,
> but it does do the same rotary to linear conversion as the leadscrew
> (neglecting friction). So, if you have torque on the leadscrew in
Inch-Lbs.
> just divide by 0.0318 Inches to get linear force in Pounds. If you
want
> X linear force in Pounds, multiply by 0.0318" to get Inch_Lbs. of
torque.
>
> If you need 1000 Pounds of linear force (cutting force + friction +
> acceleration)
> then 1000 *0.0318 = 31.8 In-Lb, or 508 In-Oz. That would
presumably be
> the PEAK torque requirement for X and Y on a mill. But, it could
be
> close to this
> as the CONTINUOUS torque on the knee, unless you had a
counterbalance
> system.
>
> In the above examlple, if you had a 250 Oz-In peak torque motor,
then
> you'd want a
> 2:1 belt reduction ratio, at the minimum.
>
> Jon
Discussion Thread
cnc_4_me
2005-02-03 22:32:41 UTC
Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
turbulatordude
2005-02-04 06:07:16 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 06:55:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 07:46:41 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 08:29:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
victorlorenzo@y...
2005-02-04 08:45:44 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 09:17:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 09:26:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 10:49:00 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 12:20:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 12:37:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 12:52:05 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Polaraligned
2005-02-04 13:04:36 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 13:06:56 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 13:19:24 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-04 13:29:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 15:02:22 UTC
Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 15:43:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 15:50:19 UTC
Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 16:00:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 16:36:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 17:04:47 UTC
Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 17:09:45 UTC
Re: Z axis force
R Rogers
2005-02-04 17:59:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Z axis force
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 18:23:13 UTC
Re: Z axis force
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 19:36:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 20:00:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-04 20:09:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-04 20:45:22 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-02-04 21:52:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Polaraligned
2005-02-05 05:27:02 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Lance Hopper
2005-02-05 06:15:18 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 07:08:03 UTC
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cnc_4_me
2005-02-05 11:11:22 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
cnc_4_me
2005-02-05 11:18:10 UTC
Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 14:28:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:15:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:28:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
Jon Elson
2005-02-05 17:52:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.
R Rogers
2005-02-05 18:08:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Declining motor torque with lower voltage.