Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
Posted by
David A. Frantz
on 2005-07-26 10:13:13 UTC
The last thing we need to do is to redefine what has be accepted for
years. If the encoder isn't involved in the feed back loop then it
isn't closed loop. From the description given so far it doesn't look
like the encoder is part of the contol loops transfer function thus not
part of the loop and not closed loop.
Dave
Thom Carr wrote:
years. If the encoder isn't involved in the feed back loop then it
isn't closed loop. From the description given so far it doesn't look
like the encoder is part of the contol loops transfer function thus not
part of the loop and not closed loop.
Dave
Thom Carr wrote:
>Hello,
>At some point, it would be time to use new defining terms for both "Cosed Loop" systems. Something like Closed loop/ correct and Closed loop/ detect. Then, we could have the same type of "civil" discussions like we have with the " what's better, servo/stepper" . My thoughts are any improvement is better then none.
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>caedave <caedave@...> wrote:
>Definition, definition, definition, but I see what you mean.
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>By definition your estop switches are closed loop in that they
>detect a state/condition and take an action based on that.
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>This does not mean that the machine/devise as a whole
>works in a closed loop. That only comes with a fully
>integrated closed loops system, where every error
>is detected and corrected on the fly.
>
>Dave M.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stephen Wille Padnos"
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>>True.
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>>And by definition, this is not closed loop for Mach3. Closed loop
>>control implies that the position error is used in trajectory
>>calculations. That's not what was described. The described
>>functionality is more like a traveling soft limit switch - it'll trip if
>>the actual position is outside a set range from the commanded position.
>>
>>It's open loop with an error bar.
>>
>>- Steve
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Discussion Thread
R Rogers
2005-07-22 13:42:25 UTC
Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
Babar
2005-07-22 20:48:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
Jon Elson
2005-07-22 22:58:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
R Rogers
2005-07-23 05:19:17 UTC
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Paul
2005-07-23 05:47:21 UTC
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Dan Mauch
2005-07-23 06:34:41 UTC
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Jon Elson
2005-07-23 15:35:57 UTC
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caedave
2005-07-24 02:36:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
Mariss Freimanis
2005-07-24 13:13:23 UTC
Re: Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-07-25 19:28:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
R Rogers
2005-07-25 20:34:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
John Delaney
2005-07-25 21:16:21 UTC
'Nother closed loop anecdote
caedave
2005-07-26 02:20:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
Thom Carr
2005-07-26 05:24:11 UTC
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Alex Holden
2005-07-26 06:19:05 UTC
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Alan Marconett
2005-07-26 08:25:06 UTC
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Jon Elson
2005-07-26 09:02:00 UTC
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caedave
2005-07-26 09:45:31 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2005-07-26 09:48:53 UTC
Re: Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!
David A. Frantz
2005-07-26 10:13:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Announcement: Mach3 is now closed loop!