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Re: PWM vs Constant current

on 2005-10-24 19:43:31 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson <elson@p...> wrote:
>
> Jarrett & Heidi Johnson wrote:
>
> >Our (K142C) Constant Current Source systems sense the drop in
current and
> >increase the voltage to the motor and thus the current and power is
> >maintained with higher speeds. A common motor we tested gave
similar torque
> >at around 300 RPM as at 1 or 2 RPM (this is as FAST as we tested
with a 200
> >step motor).
> >
> >
> Oh, so 300 RPM is fast?


It probably is fast for that technology.


> I demoed a stepper system at the NAMES show in
> 2002,
> I think, using the Gecko 201A drive (a chopper or PWM design) where the
> motor was shoving the table of a 150-Lb mini-mill around at 90 IPM. At
> that speed, the motor was spinning at 1440 RPM! I would guess the
> motor was delivering close to 50% of rated torque at 1440 RPM.
> I was quite impressed by this performance, and I doubt anybody's
> drives can do much better. I probably could have gotten even better
> performance out of the same motors with with a higher power supply
voltage,
> but there was no need. These were not the latest high performance
motors,
> either, but some 30 year old ones salvaged from printers.
>
> Jon

Hey, didn't anyone ever tell you to play fair ?
Mariss had been in drive design for what, ? 20 years ?
the Gecko 201-revA ?, was his first unit.

you could match motors and power supplies and drive the driver with a
very uniform pulse stream. Do I remember correctly when the whole
G200x came out that he ran at 200,000 hz ? on a 10 microstep driver
that is 20,000 full steps per second. divide that by 200 steps per rev
to get 1,000 steps a second, and multiply that times 60 ?

I remember 200,000 hz, but am not sure if it was into a stepper or a
servo.

But, I do recall that 1,440 RPM for a NEMA23 is about where the power
starts to get too weak.

Dave

Discussion Thread

Jarrett & Heidi Johnson 2005-10-24 06:55:16 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current Alan Rothenbush 2005-10-24 11:08:53 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current Jarrett & Heidi Johnson 2005-10-24 11:55:58 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current Alan Rothenbush 2005-10-24 16:22:38 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current Paul Kelly 2005-10-24 16:51:49 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current Jarrett & Heidi Johnson 2005-10-24 17:45:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current Jon Elson 2005-10-24 18:46:43 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current turbulatordude 2005-10-24 19:32:24 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current turbulatordude 2005-10-24 19:43:31 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current R Rogers 2005-10-24 21:46:00 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Jarrett & Heidi Johnson 2005-10-24 22:12:05 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Jon Elson 2005-10-24 22:38:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current R Rogers 2005-10-25 05:52:02 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex turbulatordude 2005-10-25 06:24:24 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex R Rogers 2005-10-25 07:07:45 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Fred Smith 2005-10-25 10:08:26 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Mariss Freimanis 2005-10-25 13:11:28 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Brian 2005-10-25 14:11:41 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Roy J. Tellason 2005-10-25 18:08:06 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Mariss Freimanis 2005-10-25 19:02:08 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Tony Smith 2005-10-25 19:12:37 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Mariss Freimanis 2005-10-25 19:28:54 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Les Newell 2005-10-26 01:17:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex caedave 2005-10-26 02:14:47 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Simon Arthur 2005-10-26 16:14:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex KM6VV 2005-10-26 17:29:07 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex Graham Stabler 2005-10-26 17:41:49 UTC Re: PWM vs Constant current and G-rex