Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Backlash
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2007-03-25 11:33:45 UTC
Vince Endter wrote:
take that much force! I have a badly worn Bridgeport that has a
very definite arc-like motion due to concave wear on the bottom
of the table and convex wear on the top of the saddle. I can
easily see this if I mill a full circular track on a piece of
scrap. (I mean I can "see" it with a dial indicator.) It was
last scraped at the Bridgeport factory in 1938!
But, even with all that wear, I can get the table moving with
5-10 Lbs of linear force, and once static friction is broken, it
will glide with less than 8 Oz of force! I have only handled a
Bridgeport with really good ways once with no screws mounted,
but the table was amazingly free to move, and you could slide
the table almost clear off the saddle with one finger.
and about 5
doesn't mean that substantial forces delivered through the screw
won't deflect the system. For instance, a 50 Lb force on a
manual Bridgeport's quill deflects the cutter at least .001"
This is flex in the structure that mounts the head to the base.
You think of these things as being absolutely stiff, but there
is no such material.
Jon
> The backlash is the same regardless of where in the travel theWhat? Something is seriously wrong, here! No way should it
> ballscrew/nut is. For the backlash to be caused by flexing, the
> ballscrew would have to deflect .215". I can garentee that the
> ballscrew is not flexing that much. As for twisting, the pully in the
> video rotates almost 4 degrees before the table starts to move. The
> table takes about 40 pounds of pressure to get it moving
take that much force! I have a badly worn Bridgeport that has a
very definite arc-like motion due to concave wear on the bottom
of the table and convex wear on the top of the saddle. I can
easily see this if I mill a full circular track on a piece of
scrap. (I mean I can "see" it with a dial indicator.) It was
last scraped at the Bridgeport factory in 1938!
But, even with all that wear, I can get the table moving with
5-10 Lbs of linear force, and once static friction is broken, it
will glide with less than 8 Oz of force! I have only handled a
Bridgeport with really good ways once with no screws mounted,
but the table was amazingly free to move, and you could slide
the table almost clear off the saddle with one finger.
and about 5
> pounds to keep it moving. Hiwin said their ballscrew have a workingJust because the screw can deliver 400 Lbs linear force safely,
> range well over 400 pounds.
doesn't mean that substantial forces delivered through the screw
won't deflect the system. For instance, a 50 Lb force on a
manual Bridgeport's quill deflects the cutter at least .001"
This is flex in the structure that mounts the head to the base.
You think of these things as being absolutely stiff, but there
is no such material.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Blue
2005-02-09 10:10:31 UTC
Backlash
Jon Elson
2005-02-09 11:14:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Backlash
Blue
2005-02-09 12:06:19 UTC
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2007-03-24 09:47:12 UTC
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2007-03-24 11:25:34 UTC
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2007-03-24 15:08:56 UTC
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2007-03-25 20:17:54 UTC
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2007-03-25 20:19:24 UTC
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2007-03-25 21:58:54 UTC
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2007-03-25 22:04:34 UTC
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2007-03-26 05:09:28 UTC
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2007-03-26 20:57:14 UTC
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2008-01-13 17:39:51 UTC
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