Re: Compters without printer port
Posted by
andrew.mathison
on 2010-02-04 15:22:38 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Andy Wander <awander@...> wrote:
with such a problem, the reason may be that the BOB (or equivalent) is drawing far too much current from the individual pins. The boot up check is seeing this and for safety reasons its stopping the boot.
I know its a fiddle, but you need to measure the current drawn when a pin is activated, not that easy.
The printer port guarantees only a max of 2.6 ma as a source or 24 ma as a sink (7400 specs). That means that on a BOB with Opto isolation for example that the input resistors need to be around 2K Ohms minimum. More is OK.... I have seen preofessional BOBs with only 370 Ohms...470 Ohms is typical and completely wrong....
Join DIY-CNC-Interfacing if you wish and read more about this. Also the printer port specs are there to read too....
If you draw too much current, you could even damage the Printer Port (which is buried in a BIG chip that has many functions other than Printing), or even the mainboard itself. Be carefull.....
regards
Andy M.
>Hi Andy,
> Hey, Les:
>
> I had that same problem with XP(I also had it when I tried Win2K) that the PC would not boot up if the parallel ports were plugged in to the breakout boards.
>
> I was beginning to think I was crazy, as I reported it on the Mach forum, and nobody seemed to have ever heard or seen anything like it before.
> ______________________________________
> Andy Wander
with such a problem, the reason may be that the BOB (or equivalent) is drawing far too much current from the individual pins. The boot up check is seeing this and for safety reasons its stopping the boot.
I know its a fiddle, but you need to measure the current drawn when a pin is activated, not that easy.
The printer port guarantees only a max of 2.6 ma as a source or 24 ma as a sink (7400 specs). That means that on a BOB with Opto isolation for example that the input resistors need to be around 2K Ohms minimum. More is OK.... I have seen preofessional BOBs with only 370 Ohms...470 Ohms is typical and completely wrong....
Join DIY-CNC-Interfacing if you wish and read more about this. Also the printer port specs are there to read too....
If you draw too much current, you could even damage the Printer Port (which is buried in a BIG chip that has many functions other than Printing), or even the mainboard itself. Be carefull.....
regards
Andy M.
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2010-01-07 06:28:30 UTC
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2010-01-07 06:35:51 UTC
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2010-01-11 16:20:35 UTC
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2010-02-03 10:55:22 UTC
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2010-02-03 10:55:51 UTC
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2010-02-03 10:59:36 UTC
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2010-02-03 11:07:01 UTC
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2010-02-04 00:27:07 UTC
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2010-02-04 15:22:38 UTC
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2010-02-04 15:56:32 UTC
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2010-02-04 16:23:28 UTC
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2010-02-04 20:36:54 UTC
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2010-02-04 20:45:26 UTC
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2010-02-04 21:35:00 UTC
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2010-02-05 07:39:33 UTC
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2010-02-05 08:40:43 UTC
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2010-02-05 10:38:24 UTC
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2010-02-05 10:58:20 UTC
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2010-02-05 12:00:46 UTC
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