RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re:low cost stepper driver
Posted by
John Dammeyer
on 2012-10-01 08:34:28 UTC
Dave,
The same thing that makes the spark plug ignite the gasoline in a car is
what blows up the stepper drivers when you unplug the motor.
A simple non-CD ignition with breaker points allows current to flow
through the primary winding of the ignition coil creating a magnetic
field. When the points open the current stops and the magnetic field
collapses. That 12V potential across the coil now turns into almost 200V
for a very short time. The secondary of the ignition coil steps that up
from 200 to 20,000 or more. Capacitive Discharge ignitions first charge a
capacitor up to about 400V and the resultant spike goes to well over
45,000V.
You cannot guarantee that when you unplug a powered stepper motor that the
connector or switch won't have the contacts bounce on/off for a few
micro-seconds or even milli-seconds. During that time the stepper motor
windings behave just like the ignition coil and the resultant high voltage
spike will kill the drives.
That's why mechanical relays have a reverse diode across their windings.
Stepper motors have current going both ways and the drivers are internally
(or externally) protected while they are connected.
John Dammeyer
The same thing that makes the spark plug ignite the gasoline in a car is
what blows up the stepper drivers when you unplug the motor.
A simple non-CD ignition with breaker points allows current to flow
through the primary winding of the ignition coil creating a magnetic
field. When the points open the current stops and the magnetic field
collapses. That 12V potential across the coil now turns into almost 200V
for a very short time. The secondary of the ignition coil steps that up
from 200 to 20,000 or more. Capacitive Discharge ignitions first charge a
capacitor up to about 400V and the resultant spike goes to well over
45,000V.
You cannot guarantee that when you unplug a powered stepper motor that the
connector or switch won't have the contacts bounce on/off for a few
micro-seconds or even milli-seconds. During that time the stepper motor
windings behave just like the ignition coil and the resultant high voltage
spike will kill the drives.
That's why mechanical relays have a reverse diode across their windings.
Stepper motors have current going both ways and the drivers are internally
(or externally) protected while they are connected.
John Dammeyer
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re:low cost stepper driver
>
>
> I have a simple machine that is made of MDF. it is not
> designed to cut metal, just wood and plastics and such.
>
> 3 amp motors are more than enough.
>
> the machine cost under $300 to build (motors were free)
>
> it does not call for $100 each drivers.
>
> an hour to make a simple circuit board that will run the
> drivers properly is worth the tradeoff. not sure why there
> is an issue of disconnecting motors with the power on.
>
> it would be nice to make another one less than $100 in
> drivers and power supply and motors.
>
> $33 and axis is not impossible.
>
> Dave
>
>
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