Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Posted by
Ian Wright
on 2001-01-07 02:35:26 UTC
Hi,
I'm surprised that no one has yet suggested a capacitive probe. One of the
problems I see with the 6-balls type and other suggestions is corrosion,
oxidisation and the possible ingress of dirt, especially in a home-built
probe. However, if a capacitance type were made, there would be no contacts
or reflective surfaces to worry about and the probe should have a long life.
The kind of thing I am talking about (without knowing too much about the
subject and hoping for comments from those more knowledgeable) would have,
say, the top of the sensing 'stalk' surrounded by an upturned metal 'cup'
coated with a thin layer of epoxy or just paint internally to isolate it
electrically from the 'stalk'. Then a connection would be taken from the
stalk and the cup to a tuned oscillator circuit. Any movement of the stalk
would then change the capacitance between the connections and thus the
frequency of the oscillator and this change in frequency could be detected
and either used to flip a digital switch or used as an analogue change to
measure the actual deflection. I'm not clever enough to design the
electronics but I don't think it would be too difficult, the biggest problem
might be working out a suitable size for the sensor part to get a
sufficiently large capacitance change to swing the oscillator a large amount
for a very small movement of the stalk. If the stalk is supported on three
or four stretched horizontal springs, the 'cup' could be made of a tube and
separate plate top and so sense both lateral and vertical movements of the
tip separately. Comments anyone?
Ian
--
Ian W. Wright
Sheffield UK
www.iw63.freeserve.co.uk
I'm surprised that no one has yet suggested a capacitive probe. One of the
problems I see with the 6-balls type and other suggestions is corrosion,
oxidisation and the possible ingress of dirt, especially in a home-built
probe. However, if a capacitance type were made, there would be no contacts
or reflective surfaces to worry about and the probe should have a long life.
The kind of thing I am talking about (without knowing too much about the
subject and hoping for comments from those more knowledgeable) would have,
say, the top of the sensing 'stalk' surrounded by an upturned metal 'cup'
coated with a thin layer of epoxy or just paint internally to isolate it
electrically from the 'stalk'. Then a connection would be taken from the
stalk and the cup to a tuned oscillator circuit. Any movement of the stalk
would then change the capacitance between the connections and thus the
frequency of the oscillator and this change in frequency could be detected
and either used to flip a digital switch or used as an analogue change to
measure the actual deflection. I'm not clever enough to design the
electronics but I don't think it would be too difficult, the biggest problem
might be working out a suitable size for the sensor part to get a
sufficiently large capacitance change to swing the oscillator a large amount
for a very small movement of the stalk. If the stalk is supported on three
or four stretched horizontal springs, the 'cup' could be made of a tube and
separate plate top and so sense both lateral and vertical movements of the
tip separately. Comments anyone?
Ian
--
Ian W. Wright
Sheffield UK
www.iw63.freeserve.co.uk
Discussion Thread
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-04 11:51:05 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
PMeinhard@a...
2001-01-04 13:37:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Fred Smith
2001-01-04 14:40:26 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-04 15:32:53 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Smoke
2001-01-04 15:44:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-04 15:47:26 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-04 15:55:33 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Fred Smith
2001-01-04 16:07:56 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Ian Wright
2001-01-04 16:35:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
dave engvall
2001-01-04 17:17:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
dougrasmussen@c...
2001-01-04 18:16:20 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-04 18:39:08 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-04 18:47:22 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Fred Smith
2001-01-04 19:10:16 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Greg Nuspel
2001-01-04 19:18:08 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-04 20:48:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Smoke
2001-01-04 21:16:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Smoke
2001-01-04 21:27:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Jon Elson
2001-01-04 22:26:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
PMeinhard@a...
2001-01-05 03:53:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Ian Wright
2001-01-05 13:02:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-05 14:16:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Bill Phillips
2001-01-05 14:27:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
ballendo@y...
2001-01-05 15:01:44 UTC
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ballendo@y...
2001-01-05 15:06:31 UTC
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ballendo@y...
2001-01-05 15:20:52 UTC
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PMeinhard@a...
2001-01-05 15:34:13 UTC
Digitizers, Renishaw
Smoke
2001-01-05 15:44:18 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-05 15:45:45 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-05 15:50:07 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
ballendo@y...
2001-01-05 15:55:04 UTC
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ballendo@y...
2001-01-05 16:51:51 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-05 18:29:57 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Jeff Demand
2001-01-05 18:32:11 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2001-01-05 19:12:09 UTC
What is everyone doing, building, wanting to learn?
wanliker@a...
2001-01-05 20:06:43 UTC
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2001-01-05 20:12:16 UTC
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Jon Elson
2001-01-05 22:42:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Garry and Maxine
2001-01-06 11:55:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] What is everyone doing, building, wanting to learn?
ballendo@y...
2001-01-06 13:30:16 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2001-01-06 13:31:06 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] What is everyone doing, building, wanting to learn?
ballendo@y...
2001-01-06 13:55:21 UTC
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Bill Phillips
2001-01-06 14:04:23 UTC
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Bill Phillips
2001-01-06 14:04:24 UTC
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Bill Phillips
2001-01-06 14:04:26 UTC
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Garry and Maxine
2001-01-06 14:52:25 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] What is everyone doing, building, wanting to learn?
Greg Nuspel
2001-01-06 14:59:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Digitizers, Renishaw
Greg Nuspel
2001-01-06 15:03:00 UTC
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2001-01-06 15:14:58 UTC
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wally daniels
2001-01-06 15:38:45 UTC
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Garry and Maxine
2001-01-06 16:24:12 UTC
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Garry and Maxine
2001-01-06 16:27:39 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-06 16:34:05 UTC
Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
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2001-01-06 18:05:33 UTC
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2001-01-06 19:52:07 UTC
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Al Lenz
2001-01-06 21:05:32 UTC
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2001-01-06 21:09:41 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-06 21:58:01 UTC
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2001-01-06 22:00:38 UTC
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2001-01-06 23:40:11 UTC
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2001-01-07 01:09:34 UTC
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2001-01-07 01:34:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Ian Wright
2001-01-07 02:35:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Digitizers, Renishaw
Jeff Demand
2001-01-07 08:10:16 UTC
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2001-01-07 11:07:33 UTC
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2001-01-07 11:17:28 UTC
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2001-01-07 11:26:27 UTC
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2001-01-07 11:29:34 UTC
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2001-01-07 11:31:54 UTC
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2001-01-07 13:58:20 UTC
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2001-01-08 08:05:28 UTC
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2001-01-08 08:18:23 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-01-08 11:29:26 UTC
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2001-01-08 16:46:08 UTC
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2001-01-08 17:21:34 UTC
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2001-01-09 00:25:56 UTC
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2001-01-09 02:03:56 UTC
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2001-01-09 02:45:33 UTC
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2001-01-09 09:25:12 UTC
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2001-01-09 10:26:45 UTC
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2001-01-09 15:56:41 UTC
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2001-01-10 09:49:42 UTC
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2001-01-10 22:45:23 UTC
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2001-01-11 11:39:15 UTC
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2001-01-11 12:02:02 UTC
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2001-01-11 12:33:11 UTC
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2001-01-11 12:58:57 UTC
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2001-01-11 13:31:18 UTC
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2001-01-11 15:17:50 UTC
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2001-01-11 21:30:37 UTC
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2001-01-11 21:45:33 UTC
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2001-01-12 02:47:13 UTC
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2001-01-12 05:24:23 UTC
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2001-01-12 06:23:38 UTC
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2001-01-12 08:02:09 UTC
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2001-01-12 09:29:33 UTC
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2001-01-12 11:51:15 UTC
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2001-01-12 12:25:10 UTC
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2001-01-12 13:47:57 UTC
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2001-01-12 14:24:14 UTC
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2001-01-12 19:03:48 UTC
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2001-01-12 19:21:45 UTC
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2001-01-12 19:28:06 UTC
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2001-01-12 21:35:53 UTC
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2001-01-14 08:58:02 UTC
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2001-08-13 15:49:05 UTC
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2001-08-13 23:08:24 UTC
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2001-08-14 06:03:41 UTC
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2001-08-14 07:03:38 UTC
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2001-08-14 08:17:23 UTC
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