Re: How Would You Design question
Posted by
ballendo
on 2002-04-26 03:14:33 UTC
Hello,
The machine you describe is common in Japan, where "planed" surfaces
are still revered... Marunaka Intl. is one supplier. They sold a
small 4 inch version in the US coupla decades ago. Makita also sold a
10 inch version, model 2501 I think. This would NOT work for the .2,
but "could" work for the .05
There's a bit more to slicing veneers however. If you go the route of
slicing, be sure to contact the FPL in Madison, WI for info(Forest
Products Laboratory). And they're not a bad resource for ANY "wood"
question. But I think the structural damage done to the wood by the
gotchas inherent in slicing would limit its effectiveness for this
use...
Hope this helps,
Ballendo
P.S. Tim, There is also a gang resaw used for making the
thin "hidden" laminations often seen in scandinavian designs. It is
designed to work with blocks the size of your blanks. I saw it at an
Anaheim trade show. Would work well (pun intended). I'm sure it(and
many other choices) would also be at The IWF trade show in Atlanta
this summer.
The machine you describe is common in Japan, where "planed" surfaces
are still revered... Marunaka Intl. is one supplier. They sold a
small 4 inch version in the US coupla decades ago. Makita also sold a
10 inch version, model 2501 I think. This would NOT work for the .2,
but "could" work for the .05
There's a bit more to slicing veneers however. If you go the route of
slicing, be sure to contact the FPL in Madison, WI for info(Forest
Products Laboratory). And they're not a bad resource for ANY "wood"
question. But I think the structural damage done to the wood by the
gotchas inherent in slicing would limit its effectiveness for this
use...
Hope this helps,
Ballendo
P.S. Tim, There is also a gang resaw used for making the
thin "hidden" laminations often seen in scandinavian designs. It is
designed to work with blocks the size of your blanks. I saw it at an
Anaheim trade show. Would work well (pun intended). I'm sure it(and
many other choices) would also be at The IWF trade show in Atlanta
this summer.
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., Peter <prenolds@s...> wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Would it also be worth considering a "plane" arrangement where you
> eliminate the saw completely and basically just pass a 4"(actually
a bit
> wider than your maximum work block) wide plane blade over the
block.
> The blade would need to be rigidly mounted and on rails - kind of
like a
> railway bogey which has a software controlled height control.
>
> I'm sure this would work at the .050" thicknesses but would
probably
> fail at .200" due to the thickness of the blade. If it could be
made to
> work - you would get a lot more yield from a block and no
sawdust...
> Obviously the blade would have to be rigidly mounted.
>
> Cheers, Peter
>
> Tim Goldstein wrote:
>
> > Been thinking about creating a specific purpose CNC machine and
thought it
> > would be help to see how some of you would attack the problem.
The question
> > revolves complete around the mechanical design of the equipment
and does not
> > at all consider the electrical or software from the motors to the
computer.
> >
> > Here are the design parameters:
> > 1) The machine will be single purpose to cut sheets of wood off
of blocks
> > with a maximum dimension of 3" x 4" x 37"
> > 2) The resulting sheets need to be consistent in thickness over
the lenght
> > of the sheet + - .0025
> > 3) The thinnest sheets cut will be .050" and the thickest will
be .200"
> > 4) The cutting motion travel will need to be in the speed range
of 20 - 60
> > ipm with a rapid backfeed in the 200+ ipm range.
> > 5) The actual cutting equipment will be a high end table saw with
very good
> > bearings so that the spindle rigidity, run out, etc do not need
to be part
> > of the design discussion
> > 6) The designed mechinism has to fit on and be compatable with a
high
> > quality table saw
> > 7) The mechanical portion of the design (not including motors,
the base saw,
> > electronics, or software) should be able to be constructed for
about $500
> > 8) Specifying expensive components that are commonly able to be
found in the
> > surplus market to meet the cost goal of #7 is acceptable.
> >
> > I think that pretty well lays out the general requirements I am
trying to
> > meet. Look forward to the various ideas that everyone may have on
how to
> > accomplish this. I have some ideas in mind and it will be
interesting to see
> > if they are consistent with the group consenses.
> >
> > Tim
> > [Denver, CO]
> > http://www.KTMarketing.com/CNC.html
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