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Re: EHP External Hardware Proposal

Posted by Fred Smith
on 2000-02-02 15:09:25 UTC
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From: hansw
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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO]EHP External Hardware Proposal


From: hansw <hansw@...>

> There is no excuse and I think the standards organizations, the standards
committee members, and the entire process is corrupt. The bureaucrats and
academics want to perpetuate the process until they retire, the industry
participants are paid consultants wages, and don't have to do much work when
at committee meetings, and the corporations that actually fund much of the
standards process do everything in their power to make sure that their
special little twist gets embedded in the standard.
>

Yep ! If the g-code standard was funded by tax money ( I'm not sure how it
was funded ) there is no reason why they should charge anything at all for
it..

I needed the NMEA ( not NEMA) standard a while back, and they charge about
$100 for it... but that's fair, it's a privately funded organization, and my
tax money did not help fund it, so, I see it's fair they can charge whatever
they please for a product..

hansw
I do not know anything about the IGES standard so I can't comment, it does
sound like the same old same old BS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Iges is Worse, because it started as a DOD initiative, and they invited
select defense contractors to participate, The beltway bandits had a hell of
a party that day, it was only dwarfed by the one which occured when the STEP
initiative was kicked off.

I don't think that our tax money paid for Rs274-D. But they took over the
cost when they made it part of the ANSI system (probably paid a fee to EIA
for the right to use the copyrighted document). If someone, whether gov,
industry, professional organization or private individual, labels some
document as a standard, it should become immediately exempt from all
copyright protection, and in the public domain.

If Microsoft says Windows standard, they'd have to remove the copyright. My
experience is that the standards are manipulated to give the big players an
advantage, and they are kept behind the cost door so that people wont raise
an outcry when they see dumb things that anybody in his right mind, unless
he worked for the "Player" would never have put in the standard.

The other problem with standards is that companies claim that they use a
certain standard, but fall woefully short of the intent and correct
application. Rs-232 serial communications is a classic example. It is just
an electrical signal spec right? I don't think that the DB25 or DB9 pin
outs are even a part of it. Why do companies get away with calling it a
serial communications protocal? It's SURE not that. If you ever tried to
interface some of the old junk machine tools to a computer, you quickly
realize this. Mazak used different settings for Send & receive
because....????

GEEZ I hate posting these messages in HTML. The stupid listserve strips out
any nontext portions and it looks real Nasty. Anybody figured out a good
way to make this work with Outlook Exp?


Best Regards,

Fred Smith
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Discussion Thread

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