Re: Modifying an X-Y table
Posted by
grantfair2001
on 2003-08-31 23:34:50 UTC
I have a vice like this. The original backlash was about 3/4"! The Acme
threaded rod seemed rough, too.
I replaced the Acme rods with 7/16-20 threaded rod. On one casting I
drilled out the threads and inserted a metal tube which I had tapped
at 7/16-20.
The other Acme went through a threaded steel insert which was just a
press fit into a hole in the casting. I destroyed the thing getting it
off, so I turned a replacement out of aluminum. I added thrust
bearings to both axes. One axis works well, but so far mounting the
other stepper is an unsolved challenge.
I understand that nuts made of delrin have low backlash. Acme taps are
very pricey, about 2 1/2 times the cost of your vice. You can make
your own tap with a piece of threaded Acme rod, though.
If you can drill out the present threads and replace them with a
delrin rod with Acme threads cut into it you might have a better vise.
As I think about it, an easier option would be adding delrin nuts at
one end of the casting threads. Fixing the nuts stationary would
probably be an easier challenge than aligning the previous setup
mentioned. I understand from John Kleinbauer that a delrin nut with a
length twice the diameter of the rod minimizes backlash. If you are
interested in low cost CNC you might look at his website.
http://www.crankorgan.com/
Good luck and have fun.
Grant
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Knight
<chuckknight@h...> wrote:
threaded rod seemed rough, too.
I replaced the Acme rods with 7/16-20 threaded rod. On one casting I
drilled out the threads and inserted a metal tube which I had tapped
at 7/16-20.
The other Acme went through a threaded steel insert which was just a
press fit into a hole in the casting. I destroyed the thing getting it
off, so I turned a replacement out of aluminum. I added thrust
bearings to both axes. One axis works well, but so far mounting the
other stepper is an unsolved challenge.
I understand that nuts made of delrin have low backlash. Acme taps are
very pricey, about 2 1/2 times the cost of your vice. You can make
your own tap with a piece of threaded Acme rod, though.
If you can drill out the present threads and replace them with a
delrin rod with Acme threads cut into it you might have a better vise.
As I think about it, an easier option would be adding delrin nuts at
one end of the casting threads. Fixing the nuts stationary would
probably be an easier challenge than aligning the previous setup
mentioned. I understand from John Kleinbauer that a delrin nut with a
length twice the diameter of the rod minimizes backlash. If you are
interested in low cost CNC you might look at his website.
http://www.crankorgan.com/
Good luck and have fun.
Grant
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Knight
<chuckknight@h...> wrote:
> Well, today there was one of those neat tool sales they hold out inbit
> rural area.
> While I was there, I found a fun little toy. Its castings are a
> rough, but it's a cross-slide drill press vise, essentially a 4x6
> inch X-Y table with a vise on top.
> [snip]
> -- Chuck Knight
Discussion Thread
Chuck Knight
2003-08-31 00:31:52 UTC
Modifying an X-Y table
Peter L. Peres
2003-08-31 14:20:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
Chuck Knight
2003-08-31 19:26:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
Jeff Demand
2003-08-31 19:53:42 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table
sam sokolik
2003-08-31 20:10:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
ccq@x...
2003-08-31 21:48:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
Chuck Knight
2003-08-31 21:54:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table
sam sokolik
2003-08-31 22:27:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
grantfair2001
2003-08-31 23:34:50 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table
Robb Greathouse
2003-09-01 13:32:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table
ballendo
2003-09-02 04:50:02 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table
turbulatordude
2003-09-02 07:50:34 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME
Chuck Knight
2003-09-02 19:16:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME
turbulatordude
2003-09-02 20:37:48 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
JanRwl@A...
2003-09-02 20:43:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
m0nkey0ne
2003-09-03 01:26:21 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
turbulatordude
2003-09-03 06:57:50 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - EPOXY
Peter L. Peres
2003-09-03 07:39:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table
ccq@x...
2003-09-03 10:10:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - EPOXY
Chris Baugher
2003-09-03 11:27:07 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - EPOXY
Chuck Knight
2003-09-03 16:28:58 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - EPOXY
ballendo
2003-09-04 03:56:10 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
ballendo
2003-09-04 04:01:45 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table
turbulatordude
2003-09-04 06:11:52 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
Chuck Knight
2003-09-04 10:14:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
sam sokolik
2003-09-04 10:36:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
turbulatordude
2003-09-04 16:17:44 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-04 16:36:03 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
JanRwl@A...
2003-09-04 20:57:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
Chuck Knight
2003-09-04 22:50:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
JanRwl@A...
2003-09-05 13:11:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning