Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME
Posted by
turbulatordude
on 2003-09-02 07:50:34 UTC
Hi Chuck,
The vice is a great toy to start with and with lots of loving care
and some 'tough love' with a mill, you can get a nice X/Y table.
I too have one of these pieces, and although it seems the same
foundry (or 3) might make lots of the castings, the metals can vary
wildly. if JET or Griz order 1,000 pieces, they can spec out the
metal, and then the ones that fail QC for some reason get sold off to
the lowest bidder, (Cummings, Homier, HF) There are a lot of
variations between units so I suspect they have different moulds and
different patterns as well as different foundries.
The main problem will be that your leadscrew is of very low precision
and will probably vary from thread to thread with respect to
dimensions as well as finish. a rough finish is a killer to any nuts
you may use. And these are often chromed to provide some sort of nice
look. Flaked chrome will also kill any nuts.
As I understand, ACME comes in an 'architectural' grade meaning no
precision, all show. these would be used for what looks like a tool,
but is cosmetic in nature, or for tools, cheap C-clamps and cheap
parts.
above that is a mechanically sound ACME that is more common on better
quality C-clamps and other tools. above are leadscrews and above that
are precision ground ACME. each increase also increases price.
In my opinion, this is a neat start to a fun project.
Bottom line is that your X/Y is a great start for someone learning
how the add CNC, and who doesn't require high precision....
or for someone who wants to try their hand at scraping without
starting on a high dollar machine.....
as a frame to which things like thrust bearings and short lengths of
higher quality ACME are added.
Dave
The vice is a great toy to start with and with lots of loving care
and some 'tough love' with a mill, you can get a nice X/Y table.
I too have one of these pieces, and although it seems the same
foundry (or 3) might make lots of the castings, the metals can vary
wildly. if JET or Griz order 1,000 pieces, they can spec out the
metal, and then the ones that fail QC for some reason get sold off to
the lowest bidder, (Cummings, Homier, HF) There are a lot of
variations between units so I suspect they have different moulds and
different patterns as well as different foundries.
The main problem will be that your leadscrew is of very low precision
and will probably vary from thread to thread with respect to
dimensions as well as finish. a rough finish is a killer to any nuts
you may use. And these are often chromed to provide some sort of nice
look. Flaked chrome will also kill any nuts.
As I understand, ACME comes in an 'architectural' grade meaning no
precision, all show. these would be used for what looks like a tool,
but is cosmetic in nature, or for tools, cheap C-clamps and cheap
parts.
above that is a mechanically sound ACME that is more common on better
quality C-clamps and other tools. above are leadscrews and above that
are precision ground ACME. each increase also increases price.
In my opinion, this is a neat start to a fun project.
Bottom line is that your X/Y is a great start for someone learning
how the add CNC, and who doesn't require high precision....
or for someone who wants to try their hand at scraping without
starting on a high dollar machine.....
as a frame to which things like thrust bearings and short lengths of
higher quality ACME are added.
Dave
Discussion Thread
Chuck Knight
2003-08-31 00:31:52 UTC
Modifying an X-Y table
Peter L. Peres
2003-08-31 14:20:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
Chuck Knight
2003-08-31 19:26:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
Jeff Demand
2003-08-31 19:53:42 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table
sam sokolik
2003-08-31 20:10:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
ccq@x...
2003-08-31 21:48:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
Chuck Knight
2003-08-31 21:54:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table
sam sokolik
2003-08-31 22:27:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modifying an X-Y table
grantfair2001
2003-08-31 23:34:50 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table
Robb Greathouse
2003-09-01 13:32:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table
ballendo
2003-09-02 04:50:02 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table
turbulatordude
2003-09-02 07:50:34 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME
Chuck Knight
2003-09-02 19:16:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME
turbulatordude
2003-09-02 20:37:48 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
JanRwl@A...
2003-09-02 20:43:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
m0nkey0ne
2003-09-03 01:26:21 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
turbulatordude
2003-09-03 06:57:50 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - EPOXY
Peter L. Peres
2003-09-03 07:39:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table
ccq@x...
2003-09-03 10:10:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - EPOXY
Chris Baugher
2003-09-03 11:27:07 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - EPOXY
Chuck Knight
2003-09-03 16:28:58 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - EPOXY
ballendo
2003-09-04 03:56:10 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
ballendo
2003-09-04 04:01:45 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table
turbulatordude
2003-09-04 06:11:52 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
Chuck Knight
2003-09-04 10:14:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
sam sokolik
2003-09-04 10:36:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
turbulatordude
2003-09-04 16:17:44 UTC
Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-04 16:36:03 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
JanRwl@A...
2003-09-04 20:57:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
Chuck Knight
2003-09-04 22:50:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning
JanRwl@A...
2003-09-05 13:11:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Modifying an X-Y table - ACME - for fun and learning