Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Posted by
Kevin R. Walsh
on 2004-03-08 14:55:45 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson <elson@p...> wrote:
I interpret this to mean that if I use smdromod.o and the Gecko
drive, that I can set the following error to basically be a MAXIMUM
of 128 counts. With 2000 ppr, and a .200" lead screw, that's 0.0128"
of allowable error. Doing profiling I guess I could see that being a
bit much.
you should be able to drive the system manually, using the encoder to
feed the DRO, just as you say, correct?
Sorry for the basic level questions, but I just got EMC working on my
laptop this weekend (WOO HOO!) and I am now going about the business
of getting my Bridgeport Series 1 CNC retrofitted with new drives
(same old motors). Anyone have any luck fitting handle to the old
Bridgeport CNC machines? I can easily get one on the Z drive. The Y
drive I couls maybe see how I can modify the belt cover and put a
handle in. What about the X?
Thanks
Kevin
> The Gecko drives are known to be within +/- 128 counts of commandedstandstill,
> position, but you don't know where. With software closed loop, the
> CNC program DOES know what the error is at any time. EMC allows you
> to have 2 terms for following error. One is a lower limit at
> and can be set VERY small, perhaps 2-5 encoder counts. The otherlimit
> is proportional to velocity. This allows you to have a largerfollowing
> error limit when moving fast, and especially at rapid feed rates,while
> keeping a small limit at the low cutting feedrates, where itmatters.
I interpret this to mean that if I use smdromod.o and the Gecko
drive, that I can set the following error to basically be a MAXIMUM
of 128 counts. With 2000 ppr, and a .200" lead screw, that's 0.0128"
of allowable error. Doing profiling I guess I could see that being a
bit much.
> You really need to hook up the fault indication from the Geckodrives so
> it can stop ALL axes and alert the CNC program.Mariss has the circuit to do just that posted in the files section.
> Another advantage of true closed-loop is that the machine can bescreen
> switched back
> and forth between closed-loop CNC and manual DRO mode, with the
> always showing the true position. If your machine has handwheels,this can
> be a nice feature.On the Gecko G201/G210 if I were to ground terminal 7 (DISABLE) then
you should be able to drive the system manually, using the encoder to
feed the DRO, just as you say, correct?
Sorry for the basic level questions, but I just got EMC working on my
laptop this weekend (WOO HOO!) and I am now going about the business
of getting my Bridgeport Series 1 CNC retrofitted with new drives
(same old motors). Anyone have any luck fitting handle to the old
Bridgeport CNC machines? I can easily get one on the Z drive. The Y
drive I couls maybe see how I can modify the belt cover and put a
handle in. What about the X?
Thanks
Kevin
Discussion Thread
snagglexr650
2004-03-08 03:59:50 UTC
true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Mariss Freimanis
2004-03-08 07:11:11 UTC
Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
David A. Frantz
2004-03-08 07:43:07 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-08 08:01:47 UTC
Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Jon Elson
2004-03-08 10:22:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Kevin R. Walsh
2004-03-08 14:55:45 UTC
Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Jon Elson
2004-03-08 20:05:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-09 08:21:51 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Jon Elson
2004-03-09 09:42:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Kevin R. Walsh
2004-03-09 11:14:07 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Abby Katt
2004-03-09 13:58:42 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Kim Lux
2004-03-09 15:44:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Bill Vance
2004-03-09 16:59:07 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Ron K
2004-03-09 17:43:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Mariss Freimanis
2004-03-09 18:23:19 UTC
Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Marcus and Eva
2004-03-09 19:12:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Raymond Heckert
2004-03-09 19:13:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Marcus and Eva
2004-03-10 07:58:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
C.S. Mo
2004-03-10 08:12:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
industrialhobbies
2004-03-10 09:27:21 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Raymond Heckert
2004-03-10 20:09:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Raymond Heckert
2004-03-10 20:09:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-10 21:58:20 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-10 23:01:02 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-10 23:02:31 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-11 06:32:35 UTC
real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-11 06:33:13 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-11 09:09:46 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-11 09:13:42 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-11 09:13:43 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
ballendo
2004-03-11 09:14:09 UTC
Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Jon Elson
2004-03-11 09:19:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Mariss Freimanis
2004-03-11 09:32:39 UTC
real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Raymond Heckert
2004-03-11 20:30:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
Raymond Heckert
2004-03-11 20:30:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop
turbulatordude
2004-03-12 06:02:34 UTC
Photo's section ( was real tests needed was Re: true closed loop
stevenson_engineers
2004-03-12 07:11:05 UTC
real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop