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Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop

on 2004-03-08 14:55:45 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson <elson@p...> wrote:
> The Gecko drives are known to be within +/- 128 counts of commanded
> position, but you don't know where. With software closed loop, the
> CNC program DOES know what the error is at any time. EMC allows you
> to have 2 terms for following error. One is a lower limit at
standstill,
> and can be set VERY small, perhaps 2-5 encoder counts. The other
limit
> is proportional to velocity. This allows you to have a larger
following
> error limit when moving fast, and especially at rapid feed rates,
while
> keeping a small limit at the low cutting feedrates, where it
matters.

I interpret this to mean that if I use smdromod.o and the Gecko
drive, that I can set the following error to basically be a MAXIMUM
of 128 counts. With 2000 ppr, and a .200" lead screw, that's 0.0128"
of allowable error. Doing profiling I guess I could see that being a
bit much.

> You really need to hook up the fault indication from the Gecko
drives so
> it can stop ALL axes and alert the CNC program.

Mariss has the circuit to do just that posted in the files section.

> Another advantage of true closed-loop is that the machine can be
> switched back
> and forth between closed-loop CNC and manual DRO mode, with the
screen
> always showing the true position. If your machine has handwheels,
this can
> be a nice feature.

On the Gecko G201/G210 if I were to ground terminal 7 (DISABLE) then
you should be able to drive the system manually, using the encoder to
feed the DRO, just as you say, correct?

Sorry for the basic level questions, but I just got EMC working on my
laptop this weekend (WOO HOO!) and I am now going about the business
of getting my Bridgeport Series 1 CNC retrofitted with new drives
(same old motors). Anyone have any luck fitting handle to the old
Bridgeport CNC machines? I can easily get one on the Z drive. The Y
drive I couls maybe see how I can modify the belt cover and put a
handle in. What about the X?

Thanks
Kevin

Discussion Thread

snagglexr650 2004-03-08 03:59:50 UTC true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Mariss Freimanis 2004-03-08 07:11:11 UTC Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop David A. Frantz 2004-03-08 07:43:07 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-08 08:01:47 UTC Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Jon Elson 2004-03-08 10:22:05 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Kevin R. Walsh 2004-03-08 14:55:45 UTC Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Jon Elson 2004-03-08 20:05:42 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-09 08:21:51 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Jon Elson 2004-03-09 09:42:37 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Kevin R. Walsh 2004-03-09 11:14:07 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Abby Katt 2004-03-09 13:58:42 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Kim Lux 2004-03-09 15:44:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Bill Vance 2004-03-09 16:59:07 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Ron K 2004-03-09 17:43:53 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Mariss Freimanis 2004-03-09 18:23:19 UTC Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Marcus and Eva 2004-03-09 19:12:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Raymond Heckert 2004-03-09 19:13:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Marcus and Eva 2004-03-10 07:58:14 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop C.S. Mo 2004-03-10 08:12:53 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop industrialhobbies 2004-03-10 09:27:21 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Raymond Heckert 2004-03-10 20:09:27 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Raymond Heckert 2004-03-10 20:09:37 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-10 21:58:20 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-10 23:01:02 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-10 23:02:31 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-11 06:32:35 UTC real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-11 06:33:13 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-11 09:09:46 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-11 09:13:42 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-11 09:13:43 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop ballendo 2004-03-11 09:14:09 UTC Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Jon Elson 2004-03-11 09:19:46 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Mariss Freimanis 2004-03-11 09:32:39 UTC real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Raymond Heckert 2004-03-11 20:30:40 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Handwheels again?!? was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop Raymond Heckert 2004-03-11 20:30:49 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop turbulatordude 2004-03-12 06:02:34 UTC Photo's section ( was real tests needed was Re: true closed loop stevenson_engineers 2004-03-12 07:11:05 UTC real tests needed was Re: true closed loop vs. hobby closed loop