Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga improving
Posted by
vavaroutsos
on 2004-09-04 11:58:02 UTC
Keith, for the money you spent on CamSoft and new motors, I would
demand more than 75ipm. My BOSS 6 had rapids of 110-120ipm with the
POS factory control. I know your original motors should be capable of
the same, and I would hope your new motors are capable of even more.
I think the geckos should be able to get you somewhere near 120ipm.
You really need to get a scope on the step/dir lines to the geckos
and see what's going on. How fast will the machine go using the
standalone pulse generator?
~petev
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Clark" <mail@t...>
wrote:
demand more than 75ipm. My BOSS 6 had rapids of 110-120ipm with the
POS factory control. I know your original motors should be capable of
the same, and I would hope your new motors are capable of even more.
I think the geckos should be able to get you somewhere near 120ipm.
You really need to get a scope on the step/dir lines to the geckos
and see what's going on. How fast will the machine go using the
standalone pulse generator?
~petev
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Clark" <mail@t...>
wrote:
> No the pulse generator drives the Geckos in place of the stepperAnaheim
> motion card. In fact the problem seems isolated to the software
> setup! The Geckos run that high torque motor as well as the
> drive does. Nothing wrong with the Geckos. Looks like my originalthe
> motors could have been used and that I wasted a lot of money due to
> the stepper motion card. At least all I have to do is fool with
> motion card and not the drives and motors anymore. Sure feels goodMr
> to have a better handle on the situation.
>
> Went back and connected all the wires as originally done and
> everything works! No bad stepper board only bad operator... (per
> Miagi)200
>
> I just finished manipulating the acel and decel parameters. I
> realized that the instructions taked about a value rounded to the
> nearest factor of 1024. So I started up the rapidspeed values by
> at a time. When it stalled, I increased the acel value bu 1024200
> until it started moving again, then increasing the rapidspeed by
> etc. I got all the way to 2500 steps/second in rapidspeed and orthe
> about 75 ipm! Above that I just can't get it going.
>
> That sounds fantastic, but then when I try to run the machine,it
> stalls again. Looks like the axes are not oiled well so I am
> running a program to run the axes back and forth while actuating
> lubricating system. It looks like I have the potential to go 75living
> ipm! The whole problem was in the accel values. I can't believe
> Cam Soft could not or would not help me with those settings. They
> seemed to have no clue and just kept saying all machines are
> different. They also stated that the acel and rapidspeed values
> were not interrelated. They are very much interellated my this
> morning's experience.
>
> Well, the world is not so bad after all. I guess I can go on
> now that I have a machine that at least will make parts. What awanliker@a...,
> relief. I don't have high speed rapids but am thankful no more
> purchases are necessary for now at least.
>
> Persistence pays off.
>
> Keith Clark
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Andy Wander <awander@v...>
> wrote:
> > Keith:
> >
> > The pulse generator is driving the motors directly?
> >
> > Without the Geckos?
> >
> > Andy Wander
> > Verrex Corporation
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Clark [mailto:mail@t...]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 8:52 AM
> > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko Bridgeport saga continues
> >
> > For all of you trying to help me get my Bridgeport CNC back in
> > order, I have an update. I bypassed the Geckos and used a
> > standalone pulse generator with the same powersupply I had been
> > using (75v 16amp). The new high torque motor that stalled at 3
> > rev/sec before now screams and moves the x axis at alarming
> speed!
> > I still have to isolate why the Geckos and the original stepper
> > motion board could not do the job. Unfortunately after the
> testing,
> > I discovered the digital I/O portion of the stepper motion board
> > died so I will have to send that board in for the third time for
> > repair.
> >
> > I am glad to have a forum to air my problems...
> >
> > Keith Clark
> > TSDr, LLC
> >
> >
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Discussion Thread
Keith Clark
2004-09-04 05:51:37 UTC
Gecko Bridgeport saga continues
Andy Wander
2004-09-04 07:14:54 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko Bridgeport saga continues
Keith Clark
2004-09-04 11:11:09 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga improving
Andy Wander
2004-09-04 11:18:53 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga improving
vavaroutsos
2004-09-04 11:58:02 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga improving
Keith Clark
2004-09-04 13:15:26 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Ron K
2004-09-04 13:24:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
vavaroutsos
2004-09-04 15:04:50 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Keith Clark
2004-09-04 16:26:23 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Raymond Heckert
2004-09-04 19:07:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga improving
Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-09-04 19:08:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Keith Clark
2004-09-04 19:26:37 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga improving
Keith Clark
2004-09-04 19:31:10 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Stephen Wille Padnos
2004-09-04 19:54:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Jon Elson
2004-09-04 20:46:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Keith Clark
2004-09-05 05:17:55 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Keith Clark
2004-09-05 05:26:56 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
vavaroutsos
2004-09-05 09:31:45 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?
Keith Clark
2004-09-05 16:02:16 UTC
Re: Gecko Bridgeport saga - Gib adjustment?