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Pick-n-place thread in DIY-CNC group archive was Re: Robotic Arm

Posted by ballendo
on 2007-03-25 22:27:12 UTC
Hello,

About mid last year (AIRC) we had a YERY detailed, actively
attended, and thorough discussion of the coarse and fine points of
PNP design and implementation over at the DIY CNC yahoo group. Many
of the experts of various CNC-related forums chimed in. It was a
pretty good thread...

Might be worth a look?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DIY-CNC

Ballendo


-- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Vaughan" <mark@...>
wrote:
>
> I haven't built one, but I have just bought one for smt pick n
place.
>
> Perhaps a description might help some of you.
>
> It has four axes and lots of fiddly bit.
>
> On the right hand side of the machine is a long linear carousel
that holds
> all the parts on reels. The carousel moves along the Y direction
of a mill.
> As each part is moved past the pickup point, a pneumatic plunger
can be
> raised to advance that part. The reels have tapes holding the
parts, the
> sides of the tape are punched like photographic film, and an
adjustable
> ratchet mechanism advances each part if it actuation lever is hit
by the
> plunger.
>
> The PCB table sites to the left of the parts carousel, it also
only moves in
> the Y direction. It is independent of the carousel so both can be
> positioning themselves at the same time, but for a slower machine
they could
> be allowed to move together.
>
> The pickup head moves in the X, and Z direction. It holds the part
with
> vacuum, on a nozzle, a bank of nozzles are mounted on the back of
the PCB
> table, and it can automatically select the correct nozzle for the
component.
> Two pairs of tweezers at 90 degrees to each other also meet with
the part to
> position it. The tweezers are cut with steps in them and can be
moved in the
> Z direction to decide what part they are going to grip with.
>
> For all parts the vacuum pressure is adjustable, the pressure the
head
> places down on the part to pick it up, the pressure it presses it
down onto
> the PCB.
>
> There are also syringes for glue and solder paste that are
operated by a
> controlled plunger on the head.
>
> Theres are also cameras, and error checking software that checks
the place
> part matches with the picture in memory.
>
> The pickup vacuum has a sensor to check whether it has actually
grabbed a
> part.
>
> IC chip parts holders have the chips in alloy channels with
vibrators to
> rattle them down to position.
>
>
>
> I think that about it. My machine is a 90's model so not new, but
low
> mileage and came at a good price. The manufacturer claims 4000 to
4500 parts
> per hour, but 3000 is more like it.
>
> It's quite quick, though positional accuracy is about a thou, now
where near
> as accurate as a mill, and if you get it that close, the part will
normally
> float to position by the surface tension of the solder paste when
molten in
> the oven
>
> Newer machines will to 15000 plus parts per hour, many have
multiple heads
> to achieve this so they put several parts down at the same time.
They also
> have much better photographic recognition.
>
>
>
> Now I have one, I realise it is quite a task to build one, not
difficult,
> but there's one hell of a lot of work for a one off. Just the
parts holders
> are complex enough.
>
> Anyhow that should give you something to think about.
>
>
>
> Dr. Mark Vaughan Ph'D. B.Eng. M0VAU
>
> Managing Director
>
> Vaughan Industries Ltd, reg in UK no 2561068
>
> Water Care Technology Ltd, reg in UK no 4129351
>
> Addr Unit3, Sydney House, Blackwater, Truro, Cornwall, TR4 8HH, UK.
> Phone/Fax 44 1872 561288
>
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>
> _____
>
> From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of roboticscnc
> Sent: 25 March 2007 21:38
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Robotic Arm
>
>
>
> Hi Group,
> Has anyone built a robotic arm for pick & place ?
> Is it possible to teach ( digitize ? ) Mach 3 to control one ?
> Could a conversion ( Macro ? ) be used to generate X,Y,Z positions
> from X,Y,Z co-ordinates in G Code ?
> I've looked around for different software ( EMC, etc. ) but can't
find
> much info for home built machines. I've been using Mach 3 for a
while
> so this helps with the learning curve but eventually it will be
asked
> to do a routine from a PLC, in which case linux may be a better
choice ?
> Thanks,
> Glen.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Discussion Thread

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