RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB options ...
Posted by
John Dammeyer
on 2014-06-20 09:18:39 UTC
Yes. For that reason I'm not sure I'd consider the Ethernet SS either.
MACH3 has been around long enough that the SS should really be bug free for
these types of problems. I suspect MACH4 will be even worse because if the
problem is somehow linked to MACH3+SS then it will never be solved.
Actually that's not true. The solution will be "Buy MACH4. I'm sure we can
solve it that way"
What did you edit in the xml file? As I say, I can change the velocity,
exit, try I, go back in, change it, exit, try it . and get workable motion.
My Electronic Lead Screw has had one bug that was a show stopper. I fixed
it right away. Since then the people that are using are happy. It's an
obligation I have to at least make the product as bug free as possible.
Perhaps not enhance it. But at least known and obvious bugs need to be
fixed.
John
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The SS has bugs in the tuning setup.
I solved it by editing the xml file directly.
This will not be visible, unless you use servos on a metric system.
The problem occurs with large numbers.
My step size is about 0.1 microns or 9600 steps/mm.
It is impossible to set the right values, through the normal tuning system.
One of several annoying bugs in the SS.
Also something to do with homing, again iirc. (Been a few years).
Just like some bugs in M3 threading may not be visible, on an inch system.
The numbers are so much smaller in imperial, that they are lost in the
noise.
IIRC..
The problems are with pullouts, angles, and sometimes feed/rev getting stuck
on.
Iirc this is if you interrupt the threading (stop, pause or estop), it stays
stuck on feed/rev.
And also something to do with waitfor .. waiting for the threading to start.
Sergey of kslilabs solved it somehow, with the centipede.
I junked the SS, and use Cslabs CSMIO, that has none of these problems,
afaik.
Its expensive, but very good.
Great value for money.
On 20/06/2014 16:56, 'Andy Wander' ohawiseguyeh@... [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO]
wrote:
OK, well that is unique to your system, and probably solvable.
If you are already tuned, though, it is not a priority, I bet.
Andy Wander
--
-hanermo (cnc designs)
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MACH3 has been around long enough that the SS should really be bug free for
these types of problems. I suspect MACH4 will be even worse because if the
problem is somehow linked to MACH3+SS then it will never be solved.
Actually that's not true. The solution will be "Buy MACH4. I'm sure we can
solve it that way"
What did you edit in the xml file? As I say, I can change the velocity,
exit, try I, go back in, change it, exit, try it . and get workable motion.
My Electronic Lead Screw has had one bug that was a show stopper. I fixed
it right away. Since then the people that are using are happy. It's an
obligation I have to at least make the product as bug free as possible.
Perhaps not enhance it. But at least known and obvious bugs need to be
fixed.
John
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Sent: June-20-14 8:19 AM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB options ...
The SS has bugs in the tuning setup.
I solved it by editing the xml file directly.
This will not be visible, unless you use servos on a metric system.
The problem occurs with large numbers.
My step size is about 0.1 microns or 9600 steps/mm.
It is impossible to set the right values, through the normal tuning system.
One of several annoying bugs in the SS.
Also something to do with homing, again iirc. (Been a few years).
Just like some bugs in M3 threading may not be visible, on an inch system.
The numbers are so much smaller in imperial, that they are lost in the
noise.
IIRC..
The problems are with pullouts, angles, and sometimes feed/rev getting stuck
on.
Iirc this is if you interrupt the threading (stop, pause or estop), it stays
stuck on feed/rev.
And also something to do with waitfor .. waiting for the threading to start.
Sergey of kslilabs solved it somehow, with the centipede.
I junked the SS, and use Cslabs CSMIO, that has none of these problems,
afaik.
Its expensive, but very good.
Great value for money.
On 20/06/2014 16:56, 'Andy Wander' ohawiseguyeh@... [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO]
wrote:
OK, well that is unique to your system, and probably solvable.
If you are already tuned, though, it is not a priority, I bet.
Andy Wander
--
-hanermo (cnc designs)
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