Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] BDI
Posted by
Ian Wright
on 2001-07-17 01:39:25 UTC
HI Alan,
Trust you to go for the most difficult EMC installation first!!!! <G>.
Lets go through the problems -
1] There should be no problem using the E: partition and having the machine
dual boot but a) you need to specify the correct partition as the boot
partition and b) you need to make sure that Lilo is set up properly to give
you the correct options. The partitions are numbered by the setup and will
usually start at hda1 but, if you try to install more than once, these
numbers will change and the C: partition is likely to become hda6 - I don't
know why but that is my experience. So, the first thing you need to do when
you boot from the installation CD is type 'expert' at the first screen. This
will always give you the option of deciding exactly where you want to
install Linux and where you don't want anything altered. Don't check the
'use fdisk' box and, when you get to the partitions screen, work out which
is the E: partition - the third on hda. You can just put everything in a '/'
directory on that partition but it is good practice to have more than one.
In any case you must have a swap partition. So, if E: isn't the last
partition on the drive, you could possibly lose stuff in higher partitions
as you install Linux. Choose the E: partition and hit the 'edit' button,
then select '/' from the drop-down box and set the partition size to 100Mb.
Now hit the 'add' button and create a new partition of type 'linux swap'
(use the button which normally says 'dos' or 'linux native' and select swap)
and make this 100Mb. Do the same to creat another partition of type 'linux
native' and size 1800Mb. On the next screen check the buttons to format
these three new partitions only. As you proceed make sure you check the
buttons for 'use lilo' and 'write lilo to MBR'. I can't remember whether you
will be given the option of specifying boot options now or not but we can
always sort that out later.
Setting up the video is often the most problematic part. Linux should make a
pretty good guess at the card and usually has more success with older cards
than some of the newer fancy things, however, the most likely problem you
have is in guessing the monitor sync rates right. It is usually possible to
get almost any combination working but, for hardware that is not listed, it
can sometimes take a little while. My experience is that the Horizontal sync
rate is the most important - one old monitor I am using needs the H-sync set
at 31.47, if try the 'standard' 31.5 it just won't work and yet I can set
its V-sync to 50-90 and its quite happy!. Start with the 'generic' monitor
and I would try just working my way through the various SVGA types first.
Pick, say, Extended SVGA, go to the next screen where it should have found
your card and hit the 'test' button. This should make the screen flash a bit
and, if the chpoice is good, you will get a grey screen with a cross cursor
which will then change to a screen with a grey/blue box saying 'can you read
this'. If you don't see this just wait a little while and, in 8 or 10
seconds, you will be returned to the card selection screen. You can then use
the 'back' button to choose another monitor type and repeat the process.
When you find on that works you can select the 'use graphical login' button
and' optionally, the 'fine tune video display' button. This latter will take
you to another screen which will let you select the resolution of the
display (at least 800x600 is best and 1024x768 would be better) and again
test the options before committing yourself. Even if you can't find a
combination that works, we do have another possible way of sorting it later.
When the machine reboots on completion of the setup you should get the
initial text messages telling you what the processor and disk drives are
etc. and then you should see the text LILO boot: on the screen. At this
point you can select which OS you boot to. If you ignore it, it will boot
into the default system which it will have set to linux in about 10 seconds.
You can, however, hit the 'tab' key and it will give you the available
options (probably 'linux..........dos'). If you want to boot into windoze,
you then just type 'dos' and hit return.
You should be able to boot from the BDI CD without any problem - assuming
you have the right boot option set in your BIOS. If you can't, I wonder if
there is some incompatibility between the CD and the CD reader?
HTH,
Ian
--
Ian W. Wright
Sheffield UK
www.iw63.freeserve.co.uk
Trust you to go for the most difficult EMC installation first!!!! <G>.
Lets go through the problems -
1] There should be no problem using the E: partition and having the machine
dual boot but a) you need to specify the correct partition as the boot
partition and b) you need to make sure that Lilo is set up properly to give
you the correct options. The partitions are numbered by the setup and will
usually start at hda1 but, if you try to install more than once, these
numbers will change and the C: partition is likely to become hda6 - I don't
know why but that is my experience. So, the first thing you need to do when
you boot from the installation CD is type 'expert' at the first screen. This
will always give you the option of deciding exactly where you want to
install Linux and where you don't want anything altered. Don't check the
'use fdisk' box and, when you get to the partitions screen, work out which
is the E: partition - the third on hda. You can just put everything in a '/'
directory on that partition but it is good practice to have more than one.
In any case you must have a swap partition. So, if E: isn't the last
partition on the drive, you could possibly lose stuff in higher partitions
as you install Linux. Choose the E: partition and hit the 'edit' button,
then select '/' from the drop-down box and set the partition size to 100Mb.
Now hit the 'add' button and create a new partition of type 'linux swap'
(use the button which normally says 'dos' or 'linux native' and select swap)
and make this 100Mb. Do the same to creat another partition of type 'linux
native' and size 1800Mb. On the next screen check the buttons to format
these three new partitions only. As you proceed make sure you check the
buttons for 'use lilo' and 'write lilo to MBR'. I can't remember whether you
will be given the option of specifying boot options now or not but we can
always sort that out later.
Setting up the video is often the most problematic part. Linux should make a
pretty good guess at the card and usually has more success with older cards
than some of the newer fancy things, however, the most likely problem you
have is in guessing the monitor sync rates right. It is usually possible to
get almost any combination working but, for hardware that is not listed, it
can sometimes take a little while. My experience is that the Horizontal sync
rate is the most important - one old monitor I am using needs the H-sync set
at 31.47, if try the 'standard' 31.5 it just won't work and yet I can set
its V-sync to 50-90 and its quite happy!. Start with the 'generic' monitor
and I would try just working my way through the various SVGA types first.
Pick, say, Extended SVGA, go to the next screen where it should have found
your card and hit the 'test' button. This should make the screen flash a bit
and, if the chpoice is good, you will get a grey screen with a cross cursor
which will then change to a screen with a grey/blue box saying 'can you read
this'. If you don't see this just wait a little while and, in 8 or 10
seconds, you will be returned to the card selection screen. You can then use
the 'back' button to choose another monitor type and repeat the process.
When you find on that works you can select the 'use graphical login' button
and' optionally, the 'fine tune video display' button. This latter will take
you to another screen which will let you select the resolution of the
display (at least 800x600 is best and 1024x768 would be better) and again
test the options before committing yourself. Even if you can't find a
combination that works, we do have another possible way of sorting it later.
When the machine reboots on completion of the setup you should get the
initial text messages telling you what the processor and disk drives are
etc. and then you should see the text LILO boot: on the screen. At this
point you can select which OS you boot to. If you ignore it, it will boot
into the default system which it will have set to linux in about 10 seconds.
You can, however, hit the 'tab' key and it will give you the available
options (probably 'linux..........dos'). If you want to boot into windoze,
you then just type 'dos' and hit return.
You should be able to boot from the BDI CD without any problem - assuming
you have the right boot option set in your BIOS. If you can't, I wonder if
there is some incompatibility between the CD and the CD reader?
HTH,
Ian
--
Ian W. Wright
Sheffield UK
www.iw63.freeserve.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Marconett KM6VV" <KM6VV@...>
To: "CAD CAM EDM DRO" <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 17 July 2001 02:31
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] BDI
> Hi Ray, BDI fans,
>
> Well, I finally got an AMD K6-2/400 machine up and checked out with
> Windoz98 (I had sometime previously built a machine for my wife with the
> 6Gb drive).
>
> The drive is partitioned as C,D,E &F, each partition is 2Gb, except the
> last, which got 32MB. Seemed like a good idea at the time; I think the
> other intended target machine didn't like anything bigger then 2Gb.
>
> As Windoz98 is in the 'C' partition, I thought I'd try to bring BDI up
> on the 'E' drive partition. I selected custom (?) and gave 'E' the root
> '/'.
>
> The first problem (?) I had was in the video board/monitor choices. I
> had put in an old Trident 9000 512 kb controller, and a Toshiba 17"
> monitor I had. Monitor not on the list, but I determined H & V sync
> rates, and put in the numbers (OK?) I tried the "test", but other then
> a few flashes and clicks of the monitor, I didn't see any "graphics
> screen" (Am I supposed to see something?), and the 512K selection was
> deleted upon the return to the text setup screens. I continued.
>
> The setups suggests about 15-20 min of time to copy all the "packages",
> that starts but never finishes (I tried different builds, I think the
> developer finished, but hung on the post stuff).
>
> After waiting a good while, I rebooted, and with Windoz, I saw (from the
> developer load try) a 1Gb or so image file, and a 32K file.
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1) Did BDI (RedHat) not like the AMD K6?
>
> 2) Did I blow it on the 'E' partition? (it would be nice to do dual
> boot), but I couldn't see a way to switch the boot to the "extended"
> partition. (Something about ASKING for instructions on doing a
> dual-boot in the printed note that came with the CD).
>
> 3) SHOULD I have seen something on the video test? (800x600 VGA)
>
> 4) I can and will blow away the Windoz98, if necessary (easier), but as
> the drive is 6Gb, I thought I'd keep it.
>
> 5) IDE drive and CD, but couldn't boot from BDI CD (machine seems to
> boot from Windoz98 2nd Ed CD). Not a problem, I made a boot floppy per
> instructions on CD.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Alan KM6VV
>
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Discussion Thread
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2001-07-16 18:31:14 UTC
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