Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] BDI

Hi Ian,

Wow! Thanks for the instructions! I'll be able to comment more
tonight, when I can try a little more. Some initial comments below:



Ian Wright wrote:

>
> HI Alan,
>
> Trust you to go for the most difficult EMC installation first!!!! <G>.
>
> Lets go through the problems -
>
> 1] There should be no problem using the E: partition and having the machine
> dual boot but a) you need to specify the correct partition as the boot
> partition and b) you need to make sure that Lilo is set up properly to give
> you the correct options. The partitions are numbered by the setup and will
> usually start at hda1 but, if you try to install more than once, these
> numbers will change and the C: partition is likely to become hda6 - I don't
> know why but that is my experience. So, the first thing you need to do when
> you boot from the installation CD is type 'expert' at the first screen.

Expert? That sounds dangerous! ;>)

> This
> will always give you the option of deciding exactly where you want to
> install Linux and where you don't want anything altered. Don't check the
> 'use fdisk' box and, when you get to the partitions screen, work out which
> is the E: partition - the third on hda. You can just put everything in a '/'
> directory on that partition but it is good practice to have more than one.

I have three partitions I can work in (D, E &F), and they are currently
empty.

> In any case you must have a swap partition. So, if E: isn't the last
> partition on the drive, you could possibly lose stuff in higher partitions
> as you install Linux. Choose the E: partition and hit the 'edit' button,
> then select '/' from the drop-down box and set the partition size to 100Mb.
> Now hit the 'add' button and create a new partition of type 'linux swap'
> (use the button which normally says 'dos' or 'linux native' and select swap)
> and make this 100Mb. Do the same to creat another partition of type 'linux
> native' and size 1800Mb. On the next screen check the buttons to format
> these three new partitions only. As you proceed make sure you check the
> buttons for 'use lilo' and 'write lilo to MBR'. I can't remember whether you
> will be given the option of specifying boot options now or not but we can
> always sort that out later.

OK, I didn't "set" any new partitions last time. I just gave E: a '/'.
I'll do that. I take it that "lilo" is a boot manager of sorts?

>
> Setting up the video is often the most problematic part. Linux should make a
> pretty good guess at the card and usually has more success with older cards
> than some of the newer fancy things, however, the most likely problem you
> have is in guessing the monitor sync rates right. It is usually possible to
> get almost any combination working but, for hardware that is not listed, it
> can sometimes take a little while. My experience is that the Horizontal sync
> rate is the most important - one old monitor I am using needs the H-sync set
> at 31.47, if try the 'standard' 31.5 it just won't work and yet I can set
> its V-sync to 50-90 and its quite happy!. Start with the 'generic' monitor
> and I would try just working my way through the various SVGA types first.
> Pick, say, Extended SVGA, go to the next screen where it should have found
> your card and hit the 'test' button. This should make the screen flash a bit
> and, if the chpoice is good, you will get a grey screen with a cross cursor
> which will then change to a screen with a grey/blue box saying 'can you read
> this'. If you don't see this just wait a little while and, in 8 or 10
> seconds, you will be returned to the card selection screen. You can then use
> the 'back' button to choose another monitor type and repeat the process.
> When you find on that works you can select the 'use graphical login' button
> and' optionally, the 'fine tune video display' button. This latter will take
> you to another screen which will let you select the resolution of the
> display (at least 800x600 is best and 1024x768 would be better) and again
> test the options before committing yourself. Even if you can't find a
> combination that works, we do have another possible way of sorting it later.

I didn't see anything of the "can you read this", and I didn't notice
the generic monitor. Probably what I should've used.

> When the machine reboots on completion of the setup you should get the
> initial text messages telling you what the processor and disk drives are
> etc. and then you should see the text LILO boot: on the screen. At this
> point you can select which OS you boot to. If you ignore it, it will boot
> into the default system which it will have set to linux in about 10 seconds.
> You can, however, hit the 'tab' key and it will give you the available
> options (probably 'linux..........dos'). If you want to boot into windoze,
> you then just type 'dos' and hit return.
> You should be able to boot from the BDI CD without any problem - assuming
> you have the right boot option set in your BIOS. If you can't, I wonder if
> there is some incompatibility between the CD and the CD reader?

Never got a reboot before, so this gives me a better idea of what's
going on! I had set the BIOS to boot CD first, and when I first brought
the system up with the "previously Windoz98 formatted" disk, and went to
look for a driver, it launched into a "W98 Release 2" update, and Windoz
is now release 2 (which I took to mean that the drive was capable of
booting from the CD). Fairly new Award BIOS.

This sounds like what I need, Please stay tuned, I appreciate the help!

TFTH (Thanks For The Help)

Alan KM6VV

>
> HTH,
> Ian
> --
> Ian W. Wright
> Sheffield UK
> www.iw63.freeserve.co.uk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Marconett KM6VV" <KM6VV@...>
> To: "CAD CAM EDM DRO" <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 17 July 2001 02:31
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] BDI
>
> > Hi Ray, BDI fans,
> >
> > Well, I finally got an AMD K6-2/400 machine up and checked out with
> > Windoz98 (I had sometime previously built a machine for my wife with the
> > 6Gb drive).
> >
> > The drive is partitioned as C,D,E &F, each partition is 2Gb, except the
> > last, which got 32MB. Seemed like a good idea at the time; I think the
> > other intended target machine didn't like anything bigger then 2Gb.
> >
> > As Windoz98 is in the 'C' partition, I thought I'd try to bring BDI up
> > on the 'E' drive partition. I selected custom (?) and gave 'E' the root
> > '/'.
> >
> > The first problem (?) I had was in the video board/monitor choices. I
> > had put in an old Trident 9000 512 kb controller, and a Toshiba 17"
> > monitor I had. Monitor not on the list, but I determined H & V sync
> > rates, and put in the numbers (OK?) I tried the "test", but other then
> > a few flashes and clicks of the monitor, I didn't see any "graphics
> > screen" (Am I supposed to see something?), and the 512K selection was
> > deleted upon the return to the text setup screens. I continued.
> >
> > The setups suggests about 15-20 min of time to copy all the "packages",
> > that starts but never finishes (I tried different builds, I think the
> > developer finished, but hung on the post stuff).
> >
> > After waiting a good while, I rebooted, and with Windoz, I saw (from the
> > developer load try) a 1Gb or so image file, and a 32K file.
> >
> > Some questions:
> >
> > 1) Did BDI (RedHat) not like the AMD K6?
> >
> > 2) Did I blow it on the 'E' partition? (it would be nice to do dual
> > boot), but I couldn't see a way to switch the boot to the "extended"
> > partition. (Something about ASKING for instructions on doing a
> > dual-boot in the printed note that came with the CD).
> >
> > 3) SHOULD I have seen something on the video test? (800x600 VGA)
> >
> > 4) I can and will blow away the Windoz98, if necessary (easier), but as
> > the drive is 6Gb, I thought I'd keep it.
> >
> > 5) IDE drive and CD, but couldn't boot from BDI CD (machine seems to
> > boot from Windoz98 2nd Ed CD). Not a problem, I made a boot floppy per
> > instructions on CD.
> >
> > Any Ideas?
> >
> > Alan KM6VV
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