Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Belt vs. Direct Drive
Posted by
Doug Fortune
on 2003-01-02 18:51:25 UTC
Dennis wrote:
for routing applications (which on CCED are mostly homebuilt routers).
Over-constraint of the motion causes binding, and with a flexible
coupler, one end of the leadscrew is constrained (for tension and
compression) while the other is 'free' to move a few fractions of a mm,
relieving binding as the screw heats up, or the frame vibrates or
the original alignment was off, or whatever.
The axial load on the motor is nil, the radial load is not much (much
of the weight of the motor-end of the screw is actually supported by
the gantry), and so the motor is left to do what it does best: provide
torque.
A belt drive setup (great for increasing torque) radially loads the
motor bearings (still ok within limits), but increases the backlash
because the tensions of the timing belt is not equal on either side,
therefore on reversal the tensions will swap, and add to the backlash.
Specifically you are mentioning steppers. Steppers have greater torque
but lesser speed (compared to same-sized servos). Therefore it is
more likely to use a servo in a belt-drive reduction scenario because
servos have high rpm (which will be reduced by the belt drive), but
essentially low torque (which will be increased by the belt drive).
My (humble) opinion, is that if you are going with the expense of a
ballscrew on a router (to eliminate backlash), don't introduce some
more backlash by using pulleys (if you can help it), all other things
being equal (which they never are!).
Doug Fortune
http://www.cncKITS.com
.
> > Can anyone comment on the +/-'s of belt vs. direct driveBob Campbell wrote:
> > from a stepper to a ballscrew. I am concerned about
> > alignment of the coupling in direct mode vs. any extra
> > backlash in a belt drive mode.
> I use a flexible coupler between my stepper motor and my lead screw.I too like using a flexible coupler on one end of your leadscrew
> The flexible coupler will take up a small amount of misalignment.
for routing applications (which on CCED are mostly homebuilt routers).
Over-constraint of the motion causes binding, and with a flexible
coupler, one end of the leadscrew is constrained (for tension and
compression) while the other is 'free' to move a few fractions of a mm,
relieving binding as the screw heats up, or the frame vibrates or
the original alignment was off, or whatever.
The axial load on the motor is nil, the radial load is not much (much
of the weight of the motor-end of the screw is actually supported by
the gantry), and so the motor is left to do what it does best: provide
torque.
A belt drive setup (great for increasing torque) radially loads the
motor bearings (still ok within limits), but increases the backlash
because the tensions of the timing belt is not equal on either side,
therefore on reversal the tensions will swap, and add to the backlash.
Specifically you are mentioning steppers. Steppers have greater torque
but lesser speed (compared to same-sized servos). Therefore it is
more likely to use a servo in a belt-drive reduction scenario because
servos have high rpm (which will be reduced by the belt drive), but
essentially low torque (which will be increased by the belt drive).
My (humble) opinion, is that if you are going with the expense of a
ballscrew on a router (to eliminate backlash), don't introduce some
more backlash by using pulleys (if you can help it), all other things
being equal (which they never are!).
Doug Fortune
http://www.cncKITS.com
.
Discussion Thread
dennis_kramer2001 <dennis.kramer@a...
2003-01-02 17:14:08 UTC
Belt vs. Direct Drive
Robert Campbell
2003-01-02 17:51:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Belt vs. Direct Drive
Doug Fortune
2003-01-02 18:51:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Belt vs. Direct Drive
Chris Baugher
2003-01-02 19:18:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Belt vs. Direct Drive
Doug Fortune
2003-01-03 01:11:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Belt vs. Direct Drive
Tony Jeffree <tony@j...
2003-01-03 01:17:12 UTC
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jeffalanp <xylotex@h...
2003-01-03 01:19:14 UTC
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torsten98001 <torsten@g...
2003-01-03 03:02:04 UTC
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bjammin@i...
2003-01-03 07:26:21 UTC
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Marv Frankel
2003-01-03 08:06:06 UTC
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Garry & Maxine Foster
2003-01-03 08:27:42 UTC
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CL
2003-01-03 10:58:51 UTC
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CL
2003-01-03 11:23:46 UTC
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alex
2003-01-03 11:34:58 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2003-01-03 11:46:55 UTC
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Chris Baugher
2003-01-03 12:13:01 UTC
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Chris Baugher
2003-01-03 18:31:50 UTC
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jeffalanp <xylotex@h...
2003-01-03 18:43:49 UTC
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Tony Jeffree
2003-01-03 21:51:52 UTC
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Tony Jeffree
2003-01-03 22:14:42 UTC
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bjammin@i...
2003-01-04 00:00:29 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2003-01-04 10:38:57 UTC
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alex
2003-01-04 16:24:30 UTC
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Ron Kline
2003-01-04 16:58:01 UTC
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alex
2003-01-04 17:33:13 UTC
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jwalters
2003-01-04 18:13:50 UTC
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Dave Kowalczyk <dkowalcz@d...
2003-01-04 18:53:19 UTC
Re: Belt vs. Direct Drive
Ron Kline
2003-01-04 20:11:18 UTC
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Jon Elson
2003-01-04 22:26:08 UTC
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alex
2003-01-05 15:45:13 UTC
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Jon Elson
2003-01-05 23:12:49 UTC
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alex
2003-01-08 08:12:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Belt vs. Direct Drive
Jon Elson
2003-01-08 23:26:42 UTC
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