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RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Belt vs. Direct Drive

Posted by Tim Goldstein
on 2003-01-04 10:38:57 UTC
Maybe on all issues but climb milling. The spindle is pulling you to one
side of the lash, the table motion is pushing you to the other. Short of
a closed look linear encoder how are you going to have any idea where in
the range of play you are? With a closed loop you can have severe
stability problems and it sure defeat the cheap approach.

This is not to say that it is not worth building a cheap crude machine.
It can be a great starting point for a biginner. Just don't expect any
miracle in software will turn it into a precision unit. Vaporware does
not count.

Tim
[Denver, CO]
Sherline products at Deep Discount
Mach1 & DeskCNC with credit card ordering
www.KTMarketing.com/Sherline

> -----Original Message-----
>
> At 02:36 04/01/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> >No. You still have the problem of the backlash when you
> climb mill and
> >it never works perfect when you do circles.
> >
> >Tim
> >[Denver, CO]
> >Sherline products at Deep Discount
> >Mach1 & DeskCNC with Credit Card ordering
> www.KTMarketing.com/Sherline
> >www.KTMarketing.com/DeskCNC
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> > > In this respect I wonder if it is possible to build a very crude
> > > machine, with a worst possible screws and backlash everywhere and
> > > try to compensate for it in a software to the point of an
> accurate
> > > machine? Alex
>
> Tim -
>
> That is only because the crude approximations to backlash
> compensation
> start with the assumptions that:
>
> (a) a given program will not do both climb milling and
> "normal" milling, and
> (b) the backlash is constant over the travel of a given leadscrew, and
> (c) the backlash value is accurately known.
>
> It would be possible to provide sufficient information to the control
> software to allow it to do a significantly better job of backlash
> compensation than most controls manage currently; however, the real
> question is whether it is a worthwhile thing to do, given the
> alternative
> of building a better machine to start with.
>
>
> Regards,
> Tony

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