Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Posted by
Weyland
on 2003-09-19 20:57:49 UTC
On Thursday 18 September 2003 01:31 am, Jon Elson spake:
motors with differring amperage values, I decided to try the lower ones.
I dropped the amperage from the Geckos down to 3.5A
using a resistor, but the motors still seemed a little warm.
Not _quite_ as warm, but warm all the same...
Curious.
Not always, but intermittantly...
answer yet, but what *IS* the recommended EMCMOT option for steppers?
If i make it anything but freqmod the motors
don't respond nicely when trying to jog them.
Upon first mouse click, there is a really bad growl.
Upon release, the just start off in one direction, continuously...
I'm mounting the encoders soon, so should I be using smdromod anyway?
Or should I wait until I actually *have* the encoders wired up?
I also noticed that I'm getting about 1.25" per percieved (by EMC) 10".
In other words, if I jog the axis, EMC will read 10.000, but visual
reference will show the dial to have spun only 1.25 times (approx).
These are 10 pitch screws, and I'm running
1:2 between motor and screw with pulleys.
(10 tooth on motors, 20 tooth on screws)
Figuring for 200 step motors, I should be getting .001 per step.
But then there's that step multiplying thing...
Right now, the Geckos are set to half step.
...the whole electronics thing throws me every time...
Weyland
> Gee, that doesn't sound so good. After 2 hours or so, that might beWell, after seeing that I had two different spec sheets for my
> acceptable, but if it gets that hot in 10 - 15 minutes, they will burn
> up. You may have to reduce the voltage, or the current.
motors with differring amperage values, I decided to try the lower ones.
I dropped the amperage from the Geckos down to 3.5A
using a resistor, but the motors still seemed a little warm.
Not _quite_ as warm, but warm all the same...
Curious.
> >Motors *SEEMED* a bit slow for my likes...Rattling almost sounds a lot like what it sounds like *sometimes*.
> >Is there a way to speed them up?
>
> Is it the MOTORS that are slow, or the computer? Did it lose steps
> and start rattling if you got above a certain speed, or did it run
> smoothly, just not fast enough? If the latter, that just means your
> computer and software can't go fast enough. Speed that up, or set the
> Gecko 210 to multiply the steps by some factor (reduce microstepping).
Not always, but intermittantly...
> >Also, the Z axis motor seemed to be "hunting" all the time.I've been reading the documentation today, and haven't come across the
> >(do steppers need "tuning" also?)
>
> You must be using EMC and freqmod.o, which simulates a servo
> in software. Apply a little DEADBAND in the .ini file for axis_2,
> something like 0.001 to stop the hunting.
answer yet, but what *IS* the recommended EMCMOT option for steppers?
If i make it anything but freqmod the motors
don't respond nicely when trying to jog them.
Upon first mouse click, there is a really bad growl.
Upon release, the just start off in one direction, continuously...
I'm mounting the encoders soon, so should I be using smdromod anyway?
Or should I wait until I actually *have* the encoders wired up?
I also noticed that I'm getting about 1.25" per percieved (by EMC) 10".
In other words, if I jog the axis, EMC will read 10.000, but visual
reference will show the dial to have spun only 1.25 times (approx).
These are 10 pitch screws, and I'm running
1:2 between motor and screw with pulleys.
(10 tooth on motors, 20 tooth on screws)
Figuring for 200 step motors, I should be getting .001 per step.
But then there's that step multiplying thing...
Right now, the Geckos are set to half step.
...the whole electronics thing throws me every time...
Weyland
Discussion Thread
Weyland Smith
2003-09-16 21:38:38 UTC
Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-16 22:11:53 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Weyland
2003-09-16 22:51:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-16 23:07:26 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
turbulatordude
2003-09-17 05:03:31 UTC
Re: Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
James Cullins
2003-09-17 06:30:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
James Cullins
2003-09-17 06:30:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-17 07:53:25 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Jon Elson
2003-09-17 10:37:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2003-09-17 10:39:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2003-09-17 11:11:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-17 12:08:59 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
James Cullins
2003-09-17 12:32:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Things to check? Crispy Fried Geckos? No motion...
Weyland
2003-09-17 19:45:49 UTC
Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Jon Elson
2003-09-17 22:31:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-17 22:39:00 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-18 06:46:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-18 06:59:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
turbulatordude
2003-09-18 07:51:25 UTC
Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-18 08:09:15 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-18 08:14:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Statman Designs, LLC
2003-09-18 08:26:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Jon Elson
2003-09-18 08:41:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
turbulatordude
2003-09-18 08:41:37 UTC
Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Jon Elson
2003-09-18 08:53:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Jon Elson
2003-09-18 08:54:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
turbulatordude
2003-09-18 09:15:51 UTC
Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: - resoulution
sam sokolik
2003-09-18 10:28:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 20:57:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 21:01:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 21:04:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 21:11:09 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 21:16:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
JanRwl@A...
2003-09-19 21:19:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 21:21:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 21:25:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 21:34:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-19 21:36:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Antonius J.M. Groothuizen
2003-09-19 22:02:37 UTC
Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-19 22:06:07 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-19 22:06:08 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-19 22:06:13 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Tim Goldstein
2003-09-19 22:06:23 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Jon Elson
2003-09-19 23:52:09 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
turbulatordude
2003-09-20 07:41:36 UTC
Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? back to basics - please
Weyland
2003-09-20 20:19:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-20 20:43:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-20 21:14:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Jon Elson
2003-09-21 09:26:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-22 09:31:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Jon Elson
2003-09-22 11:14:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-22 11:24:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Jon Elson
2003-09-22 20:46:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!
Weyland
2003-09-22 22:07:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Thanks - was: Things to check? is now: RUNNING~!