Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Best source for Servo's ?? worm gears ?
Posted by
Les Newell
on 2005-01-06 11:12:25 UTC
Hi Dave,
These motors won't do 5600 RPM with a Gecko drive. With a supply of 70V
you will get an absolute top speed of 3500RPM. They have far more torque
than you need so why gear them down so much? It is like driving your car
in 1st gear at 30mph. It will do it but it will be much happer in a
higher gear.
In a previous post you say you are looking at 0.03698 in/rev. My mill is
0.1"/rev and it will snap a 3/8" cutter like a dry twig. If you have a
piece of steel flip up and jam in the torch it would be better to stall
the drive than totally destroy the torch.
If you end up with the motor only revving up to 1000RPM it is not a
problem. In fact for a plasma it is a positive advantage. At higher
speeds the rotor inertia will be a considerable percentage of the system
inertia. Gearing the motor down too much can actually reduce your
acceleration.
Les
turbulatordude wrote:
These motors won't do 5600 RPM with a Gecko drive. With a supply of 70V
you will get an absolute top speed of 3500RPM. They have far more torque
than you need so why gear them down so much? It is like driving your car
in 1st gear at 30mph. It will do it but it will be much happer in a
higher gear.
In a previous post you say you are looking at 0.03698 in/rev. My mill is
0.1"/rev and it will snap a 3/8" cutter like a dry twig. If you have a
piece of steel flip up and jam in the torch it would be better to stall
the drive than totally destroy the torch.
If you end up with the motor only revving up to 1000RPM it is not a
problem. In fact for a plasma it is a positive advantage. At higher
speeds the rotor inertia will be a considerable percentage of the system
inertia. Gearing the motor down too much can actually reduce your
acceleration.
Les
turbulatordude wrote:
>In my trying to fit the square peg into the round hole, I found that
>a 5,600 rpm motor and gear rack seem to be incompatable.
>
>For a screw, there is an inherent reduction of screw pitch, but the
>gear rack or open belt, the movement is about 1 inch per rev or more.
>
>For the gear reduction, the step count gets too fine and requires
>some additinal work. Pulse multiplier or some such.
>
>It seems that a two or three stage drive train would offer part of
>the answer mechanicly.
>
>Also, it would seem a work gear would offer another method.
>
>Are worm gears a good application ?
>
>It also seems that putting the encoder somewhere removed from the
>motor on the drive train would reduce the high pulse frequency.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
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turbulatordude
2004-12-15 12:38:17 UTC
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