Re: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Solid modeling/Cam

Ron,

You missed my point. the original author of this thread said he was offered version 19 for $600. I guarantee you can get it for less if you try.

At $300 it's probably the best an occasional user can get. $600 for GLICHY software is not acceptable.

Bobcad needs to FIX the glitches. Some of the bugs have been there for many past versions.

Like I said 19.8 IS much more stable. I do use it and it makes money for me. But the time lost in working around the glitches, bugs, and crashes need to be considered also.

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Ted Gregorius <ted@...> wrote:

My two cents....

If you pay more then $300 for Bobcad 19 your getting ripped off.

//// Whats better for $301?///

I bought 18 and it was junk. I complained on a constant basis and the GAVE me 19. Version 19 was still junk and now the 19.8 update is available.

19.8 is probably the most stable version but is still very buggy.


BobCad may be fine for the hobbyist and tinkerer but can not be considered as an option for anyone trying to make a profit from their CNC operation.

/// I use it everyday. I watched all of the training CD's (about 14 hours) and that was a huge help. Trying to learn any CAD/CAM software without some training would be about impossible I would think. Granted, it's glitchy if procedures are not followed to the letter but, it is what it is. If one is designing and machining airfoils for Learjet they wouldn't be using Bobcad anyways. I ran two aluminum housing last week from a large billet, programmed them in their entirety with Bobcad, Hole patterns, pockets, pockets with islands etc, went pretty well. I charged $535 each for them and did them in a little over a day. Bobcad is a 2.5D program with "some" 3D capabilities. If one wants a full blown ultra-smooth 3D software, Bobcad is not it. And that software would be alot more than $300, Bottom line with them, they are a volume distributor. A very cheap, lesser quality, ultra high volume operation. I used it to create a concept for a tool that I submitted to an engineering dept at a
large corp, I was on the phone with when they opened it and the guy goes "what the hell is Bobcad?" We got a good laugh out of it. ////

Support consists of selling you the NEXT VERSION.

I do use BobCad to generate some of my CAM but I use Autocad to do my drawings and import the dxf's into Bobcad.

Sorry for the rant. I just trying to get the word out that BobCAD needs to back off on the sales pitch and spend some time fixing the hundreds of known bugs.

/// And when its comparable to high end softwares, we wont be buying it for $300 anymore. I'll take the savings with the bugs. And when I'm machining airfoils, (not likely) I'll start looking at Solidworks or Unigraphics or whatever the aircraft industry uses, I seriously doubt its Bobcad.

I also did a wiring diagram of my CNC machine using Mach2, Campbell, Gecko with the Bobcad software. It was alot faster than Autocad. It's on my website coverted to a PDF at www.rogersmachine.net

/// Ron

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I downloaded the v17 version of Bobcad from their site. The sales guy
calls me and I tell him I'd rather have solids modeling in v19 rather
than wire frame in v17. He tells me that since Bobcad just released
v20, that v19 is not $1500, but is now $600. v19 has solids and CAM
built right in. This all happened last Saturday over the phone. Hope
it helps.

I've used Rhine since it was a beta. Very nice. Wish I could justify
the RhinoCAM's cost. Maybe signing up for a class would help.

Mike



--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Will" wrote:
>
>
> I am looking for a Cad/Cam program to use on a Shoptask machine, so
I
> need both a mill and a lathe module. I was looking into Vector, but
> after using the demo for a couple days, its not quite what I was
> looking for. I've had several years of Autocad in college, and I
find
> it faster to use when making wireframe 3d models, it just doesnt do
> cam. I also learned featurecam, so thats what I tend to compare
> software to, too bad I'll never be able to afford it.
> Are there any low priced (<$900) cad/cam programs that use
> solid models instead of wireframes? Or should I just look into
> getting a Cam program and using AutoCad to generate the surface
> models?
> William





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