Re: Another router video..
Posted by
ballendo
on 2006-06-01 08:02:19 UTC
Ron,
I've spent some time in front of fast machines. Even the early 80's
Cincy I retrofit last year could do 400IPM...
I've operated 1100IPM machining centers.
Also others--not machining centers-- at even faster rates. (sail
plotters for example)
your project Seems a nice machine. (What you've let us see, at
least.)
But high speed cnc operation is NOT new to me.
So I'm asking specific questions about what I'm looking at...
I'm NOT asking about corner rounding...
I DO understand the effects of higher acceleration...
I'm asking to SEE a close up of the CUT at these various rates
you're showing.
I've already asked about:
linear guide type?
steppers vs. servo's?
Ballscrew, rack/pinion other?
If the only purpose of showing us this is to WOW us, then okay.
Wow.
Care to give any answers to the questions asked?
Ballendo
P.S. I HAVE described my wood ducks and roadrunners in great detail.
I have chosen not to share pictures yet. When I do, there will be no
closeups only and blue tape.
(But of course my machines <should> have absolutely NOTHING to do
with asking you questions about what you've decidesd to show us.)
The machines are quite obviously designed for different market
segments. I'm not planning 1800IPM wood ducks...
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, R Rogers <rogersmach@...>
wrote:
your vid player and choose full screen. The key as I said earlier is
acceleration. The heck of it is, that was the first cycle of that
routine. It would do it even faster. I've proven the speed is there
and much more importantly, speed with relative precision.
Acceleration is the key to fast direction changes and keeping X and
Y in time with one another. I've moved on to other areas of design
and testing.
reach it if you have trouble.
there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list.
I've spent some time in front of fast machines. Even the early 80's
Cincy I retrofit last year could do 400IPM...
I've operated 1100IPM machining centers.
Also others--not machining centers-- at even faster rates. (sail
plotters for example)
your project Seems a nice machine. (What you've let us see, at
least.)
But high speed cnc operation is NOT new to me.
So I'm asking specific questions about what I'm looking at...
I'm NOT asking about corner rounding...
I DO understand the effects of higher acceleration...
I'm asking to SEE a close up of the CUT at these various rates
you're showing.
I've already asked about:
linear guide type?
steppers vs. servo's?
Ballscrew, rack/pinion other?
If the only purpose of showing us this is to WOW us, then okay.
Wow.
Care to give any answers to the questions asked?
Ballendo
P.S. I HAVE described my wood ducks and roadrunners in great detail.
I have chosen not to share pictures yet. When I do, there will be no
closeups only and blue tape.
(But of course my machines <should> have absolutely NOTHING to do
with asking you questions about what you've decidesd to show us.)
The machines are quite obviously designed for different market
segments. I'm not planning 1800IPM wood ducks...
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, R Rogers <rogersmach@...>
wrote:
>rounding. You might try increasing video resolution. Or right click
> On my computer(s) its very plain to see there is no corner
your vid player and choose full screen. The key as I said earlier is
acceleration. The heck of it is, that was the first cycle of that
routine. It would do it even faster. I've proven the speed is there
and much more importantly, speed with relative precision.
Acceleration is the key to fast direction changes and keeping X and
Y in time with one another. I've moved on to other areas of design
and testing.
>be
> I'll post a video of it hole drilling later <G>
>
> Thanks for your comments, Ron
>
>
>
> ballendo <ballendo@...> wrote:
> >In CCED, R Rogers wrote:
> >250 ipm programmed speed, 100% feedrate. Speed is not as critical
> >as acceleration. Cut quality is great. No corner rounding.
> >You should post some video of the woodduck...
> >Yeah, thats one reason for the blue tape. Way wipers have yet to
> >designed. They will be.end).
> >Thanks, Ron
>
> Ron,
>
> Thank you for the numbers, suggestion and explanation. Still would
> like to see a closeup of the actual cut (just zoomed in at the
>are
> Ballendo
>
>
> >
> >
> > ballendo wrote:
> > Ron,
> >
> > Nice video. What is the programmed speed?
> >
> > Can we see a close up of the finished engraving, to see cut
> quality
> > at this speed?
> >
> > Ballendo
> >
> > P.S. Do we have to use blue painter's tape to keep swarf off the
> > ways?
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "rogersmach"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Everyone,
> > >
> > > Playing with the new router again..
> > >
> > > Engraving text
> > >
> > > http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=4581
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> > > Ron
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