RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Musings on screw pitches
Posted by
Paul Kelly
on 2006-06-02 16:42:41 UTC
Yeah, there are obviously trade off's, you loose force, you get a bit more
wear. (is this what you were referring)
What I'm coming to realise is that my perception of the amount of
"deliverable torque" from an NEMA23 motor was falsely based on my
experiences trying to run them at >500RPM (from 24V). Armed with my new
understanding I'm starting to re-reference everything and am coming to
believe that the small machines (little gantry routers, 20" lathes etc) just
don't load the axis drives (motors and screws) appreciably. Put another
way: I used to think that the reason my machines were slow was because I
used small motors. I now believe that they were slow because I designed them
that way.
I realise that speed is a relative concept , but IMHO more speed is
generally better.
PK
wear. (is this what you were referring)
What I'm coming to realise is that my perception of the amount of
"deliverable torque" from an NEMA23 motor was falsely based on my
experiences trying to run them at >500RPM (from 24V). Armed with my new
understanding I'm starting to re-reference everything and am coming to
believe that the small machines (little gantry routers, 20" lathes etc) just
don't load the axis drives (motors and screws) appreciably. Put another
way: I used to think that the reason my machines were slow was because I
used small motors. I now believe that they were slow because I designed them
that way.
I realise that speed is a relative concept , but IMHO more speed is
generally better.
PK
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> Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Musings on screw pitches
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> Hi Paul,
>
> OK. Being anal that I am I did some googling and found this
> nice document from Stock Drive along with some torque/force
> calculations
>
> http://www.sdp-si.com/D785/PDF/D785SA021.pdf
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> John Dammeyer
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>
> > >
> > > Where did he get the ballscrews with that pitch?
> >
> > Ebay, unable to cope emotionally with having the slowest router in
> > town. I immediately went looking for some 20mm pitch screws (yes I
> > drive a big car too). Found 'em pretty quick.
> >
> > >
> > > My XY system for programming a panel of processors ended
> up being so
> > > slow with a 20TPI thread that it was faster to do it by hand. My
> > > next approach was going to be to use belts. But 20mm ball screws
> > > sounds like a good idea.
> >
> > Yeah, this is the sort of thing I'm talking about, using a coarser
> > pitch screw to improve speed with steppers just doesn't
> seem to be a
> > strategy that's in the public domain... Seems strange that..
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