Re: Black box again
Posted by
Alan Marconett KM6VV
on 2001-06-26 21:57:42 UTC
Hi Jon,
Some comments below:
Jon Elson wrote:
C400h. The port doesn't appear to be there at all, it simply doesn't
show up!
Alan KM6VV
Some comments below:
Jon Elson wrote:
>From what I've seen, the problem is more that DOS can't see an LPT at
> Alan Marconett KM6VV wrote:
>
> > Hi Jon, Ballendo,
> >
> > I have noticed, that while you can get a parallel port board (SIIG) for
> > the PCI bus, it may (always?) put the address not at 278/278h, but at
> > something like C400h! And DOS won't recognize it! Fine for Windoz, but
> > not good for "older stuff" (like me). Perhaps someone can shed more
> > light on this subject!
> >
> > On the other hand, USB is called marginal on Windoz95, and nonexistent
> > on 3.1 and DOS. Not that I mind Windoz98 2nd Ed, but I still like/use
> > DOS.
>
> Well, this isn't a problem for special purpose devices, as we control all
> the software, we can adapt to whatever address things show up as.
> Anyway, the parallel port address is configured by a line in the .ini
> file for EMC, so it is user settable.
C400h. The port doesn't appear to be there at all, it simply doesn't
show up!
>So you're doing full 1284 xfers (handshake managed by hardware)?
> > Jon, I know you have your "black box" running already (and nearing
> > production?), but what are your thoughts about USB control? Any
> > possibility?
>
> It is IN production, although there are only a few units installed so
> far. The problem with USB is the huge overhead for protocol on the
> CPU side, as well as the requirement of having a processor on the
> device side. There is no processor needed in my current PPMC design,
> it is all done with CPLDs and FPGAs. There was a lot of info indicating
> USB was not a good choice for real time things that needed a lot of
> transactions per second. We need to handle at least 1000 servo cycles
> a second, and some users might demand more. My boards should be able to
> handle 10 KHz without any trouble, and complete the full servo cycle
> (read current position, compute new velocity and load velocity) in
> about 25 uS when I employ all the IEEE-1284 bells and whistles. I'm
> doing about 50 uS right now, using basic functions without much
> optimizing.
Alan KM6VV
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