Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Almost plug-n-play??? going O.T.

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From: "art" <fenerty@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Almost plug-n-play??? going O.T.


> Juan:
>
> This is all very offtopic, so I will respond only this occasion. I dont
> get to read here except every
> week or two, so dont respond, you'll just tie up valuable resource space
> here for those doing actual CNC work..
>
> Your comments are typical of the pirate community, everything should be
> free, and no-one should pay for software. And thats a great thing, itd be
> nice too if money grew on tree's and all stores were simply take as you
> wish, no need to pay anything. Utopian paradise!! .
>
> However, growth is killed by such things. I spend approximatly 10 hours
> each day, seven days a week supporting Mach3, both in writing code, and
> running support functions. I pay about $60,000US per year in payments to
> individuals like myself and overhead costs to do this. Mach3 is sold in
> about 30 Countries, with an OEM distributership program with over 2 dozen
> distributers in various countries.
> The time and resources to run even a small company such as mine is
> suprising in its complexity and resource usage. Literally thousands of
> people have been helped and guided into CNC through the Mach series and
> while Im probably the most knowledable on the shortcomings of Mach, and
> the
> things I need to do to make it more robust, the fact is, it helps alot of
> people. If everyone thought as you, Mach3 would not exist. When its costs
> exceed its revenues, it will cease to exist. Its really that simple.
>
> There are those that selflessly donate their time to writing code and
> releasing programs for free. (EMC for example) That, however, takes a
> great
> many dedicated and talented people, few would be willing to write complex
> source code for people such as yourself . If you truly believe your
> mantra,
> how about this.. Take 10 years of your life, study hard each day, write
> tens
> of thousands of lines of code, then release the program for free. Help
> each
> of the over 100 people each day that will contact you for guidence, help
> or
> just a sympathetic ear for their problems,find dedicated, talented and
> very
> selfless poeple to aid in documentation, videos , and other support
> information collation. find equally talented poeple to take care of web
> sites and forums. Find the same sort of people to aid in support from
> several directions such as additive forums, more to do support functions
> for
> industry and screen design theory for industry. Basically become a hermit
> devoted to doing what you love to do. Then ..while your giving this away..
> go to the fridge and have an imaginary drink to cool off,(oh my..its
> empty..). But Im sure the great feeling of protecting the proletariat from
> capitalistic ideals will quench your thirst. Youll know that all the work
> you do is fully appreciated by people such as yourself, who while they
> decry
> capitalism, live of the fruits of others labours and add basically nothing
> to the equation, your life is well worth giving up for their comfort or
> amusement after all.
>
> Listen, Bud, I have no great problem with Piracy, it exists, and in
> many
> ways, helps to spread the word about what my software can do, and makes
> others want to purchase it. You can teach me nothing about piracy, I come
> from a very dark programming background. Just as musical bands today are
> finding that music piracy has helped to grow their fan base, I have found
> that piracy also increases the amount of people using Mach3. Eventually,
> almost every pirate buys a license. I get dozens of letters from people
> admitting they have been using cracked versions, and deciding to jump in
> as
> a fully licensed user. I welcome them to the group. But be warned that in
> life there is no free ride. While a hardware maker is better protected as
> one has to do a great deal of work to copy hardware, software copying is
> easy. Mach3 is, however, better protected than many suspect. My background
> makes me something of an expert in software protection.. better than most.
> I
> could easily make the protection daunting, and dangerous, after all, Im
> controlling a machine here, its very easy to allow it to destroy a job it
> senses as intricate. Or I could make it work only on one computer, with
> web
> accessable key technology. I refuse to do so, my licenseing is about as
> liberal as it gets, free updates, never pay again licensing with multiple
> computer support puts me in a class far removed from Microsoft.. Fact is,
> your preaching to the wrong choir here on piracy, the people here
> appreciate
> new things, and higher capabilities, and they know licensing fuels that
> engine. Were more people like yourself, we'd all be using DOS, and very
> limited capability programs. No-one would write anything that is
> downloadable, so while people like you have a place in this process, its
> limited to being a bad example of how to run things, and a perfect example
> of how to make everyones life more difficult. So fer gods sake, if your
> gonna pirate, go ahead, pirate, but dont brag about it, its really not
> much
> of an accomplishment, a monkey with a keyboard can pirate... Tells us
> about
> your accomplishements when you actually have some and have something to be
> proud of, Ill never get rich with my pricing and licensing policies, but I
> do have a huge amount of pride in what Ive done, and the people Ive
> helped....even such as yourself...
>
>
> (Sorry for the OT guys.. I just felt the need to respond to this one. :)
>
> Regards,
> Art
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Art
> www.artofcnc.ca
>
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> From: "juan gelt" <juangelt@...>
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