Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: GeckoDrives.. Can anyone Help?
Posted by
Tom Eldredge
on 2001-03-20 06:37:54 UTC
As I understand it, the Gecko drives partially bridge the gap between
step/dir and servos, but do not give the velocity control that true servo
systems provide.
It seems as though in order to get true velocity control, the encoder
feedback needs to reach the control earlier in the processing stage. I do
not really know how this differs from the step/dir control /320/340
configuration exactly, but I suspect it relates to the number of
computations of position that is typically done in a true servo system
compared to the number of postions considered in a typical pc based
step/direction control. There seems to be a difference in the smoothness of
true velocity commands because of the number of comparisons typically made.
I hope someone with more experience (maybe Jon Elson) can clarify this
difference for us.
Are people using 320/340 gecko drives with EMC and DeskNCrt? How are they
typically hooking up the encoders--to the drives and the control with the
camtronics board?
Is DeskNCrt just as good or complete as the Lunix based EMC?
Tom Eldredge
step/dir and servos, but do not give the velocity control that true servo
systems provide.
It seems as though in order to get true velocity control, the encoder
feedback needs to reach the control earlier in the processing stage. I do
not really know how this differs from the step/dir control /320/340
configuration exactly, but I suspect it relates to the number of
computations of position that is typically done in a true servo system
compared to the number of postions considered in a typical pc based
step/direction control. There seems to be a difference in the smoothness of
true velocity commands because of the number of comparisons typically made.
I hope someone with more experience (maybe Jon Elson) can clarify this
difference for us.
Are people using 320/340 gecko drives with EMC and DeskNCrt? How are they
typically hooking up the encoders--to the drives and the control with the
camtronics board?
Is DeskNCrt just as good or complete as the Lunix based EMC?
Tom Eldredge
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Goldstein <timg@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: GeckoDrives.. Can anyone Help?
> Just reading this quickly, but I am not understanding how this differs
from
> what Gecko already is offering in the G320/G340 step and direction servo
> drives??
>
> Tim
> [Denver, CO]
>
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> >
> > Could we step/direction guys bridge this gap with Marris'
> > help? Let me make
> > a suggestion:
> >
> > Could we not make a hardware (IC based) adapter which
> > included an enocder
> > driven counter, a hardware comparator, and another hardware
> > counter driven
> > by our step /direction signals, and then a D/A converter driven by the
> > hardware comparator, which would then drive one of Marris'
> > upcoming +_
> > servo amps? Would we not be thus able to provide the P, and
> > he provide the
> > I, D, and the actual amplifier to drive the servo motor?
> >
> > I have already emailed Marris with this idea. I suppose I
> > should have put
> > the whole thing on this forum rather than bother him, but
> > after I emailed
> > him, I thought others might have some good ideas related to this.
> >
> > It does not seem as though the hardware for the P of the PID
> > would be much
> > to come up with, and maybe it would provide another
> > compromise helping us to
> > get closer to the true velocity control desired in some applications.
> >
> > I probably do not see the big picture, but I thought I'd ask.
> >
> > Tom Eldredge,
> >
> > FAQ: http://www.ktmarketing.com/faq.html
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