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RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.

Posted by JJ
on 2002-08-16 12:58:43 UTC
The chopper drivers wear engineer's boots and leather jackets.

Oh, wait, okay. The chopper drivers reduce the current requirment from
the powert supply since they aren't "on" all the time.

As far as fusing, you need a fuse on the primary (120v/230v) side. I
believe for you this would be:
50 / 120 * 14 = 5.8, I would round up to 7, 8 or so. Oh yeah, must be a
250v fuse.

For the secondary (50v) side, you need a fuse right off the secondary,
before it goes into the rectifier, probably 15 or 20 amps. You want a
250v fuse here too.

As far as fusing the supply to each drive, have at it.

When a fuse blows on the supply to the drive, it's the same as turning
the power supply off. The fields in the motors collapse and send current
into the drives, but no more than when the phase turns off when another
turns on. The problem with unplugging is there isn't a clean break, the
fields build and collapse rapidly, sending a lot more current into the
drive than normal, not to mention high frequencies due to arcing.

That's my take on it. Standard disclaimers apply :-)

Regards,
JJ

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mayfieldtm [mailto:mayfiet@...]
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> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
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> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "mariss92705" <mariss92705@y...> wrote:
> > Adding all the currents gives you 13.5A. 2/3 of that is 9A.
>
> OK! Now I'm confused about motor current vs supply current.
>
> I have always assumed that the name plate current rating is for EACH
> winding.
>
> Suppose my 8 lead motor has "1 Amp" on the name plate.
> I wire these in parallel. So now it's a 4 lead motor to be used with
> a Gecko 201 H-Bridge Driver.
> Would that not be a total of 2.67 amper draw from the power supply?
> (4 amps times 2/3)
> And if so, then I should set the Driver to 4 Amps?
>
> In which case Lloyds' power supply should be at least 18 Ampers.
> (Assuming all motors wired in parallel.)
>
> I know you are correct, what's wrong with my thinking?
>
> Is the name plate rating a total for all windings? That would make no
> sense to me at all.
>
> Also... Filter Caps and their sizes.
>
> I have always way way way over rated the Capacitance of Filter Caps
> in brute force power supplies (like 5 to 10 times).
> Other than cost, physical size and inrush currents, is there a
> problem with doing this?
> I guess I've aimed for less ripple, less heating and better handling
> of back emf from the loads.
>
> Tom M.
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Lloyd Leung 2002-08-15 21:03:45 UTC Here's my proposed power supply setup. mariss92705 2002-08-16 01:13:19 UTC Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. rawen2 2002-08-16 09:43:38 UTC Q for Mariss (was Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.) mayfieldtm 2002-08-16 09:45:38 UTC Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. JJ 2002-08-16 12:58:43 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. JJ 2002-08-16 13:02:50 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Q for Mariss (was Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.) mayfieldtm 2002-08-16 14:53:34 UTC Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. turbulatordude 2002-08-16 15:37:50 UTC Q for Mariss (was Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.) mariss92705 2002-08-16 18:32:01 UTC Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. mariss92705 2002-08-16 18:42:42 UTC Q for Mariss (was Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.) Jon Elson 2002-08-16 21:35:06 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. Lloyd Leung 2002-08-16 22:05:01 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. andrewyslee 2002-08-16 22:30:11 UTC quickie LED lesson Lloyd Leung 2002-08-16 22:36:13 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson turbulatordude 2002-08-17 06:31:37 UTC Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. Les Watts 2002-08-17 07:25:47 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. JJ 2002-08-17 09:36:42 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. mariss92705 2002-08-17 11:56:07 UTC Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. mariss92705 2002-08-17 12:01:00 UTC Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. Mike 2002-08-17 12:51:50 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson pcfw 2002-08-17 12:51:50 UTC Re: quickie LED lesson Brian 2002-08-17 13:41:49 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup. mayfieldtm 2002-08-17 13:59:01 UTC Shock Warning JJ 2002-08-17 14:32:15 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning Matt Shaver 2002-08-17 19:31:26 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning JanRwl@A... 2002-08-17 20:03:43 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson turbulatordude 2002-08-17 20:30:15 UTC Re: Shock Warning Keith Green 2002-08-17 20:51:02 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning mayfieldtm 2002-08-18 00:19:02 UTC Re: Shock Warning stevenson_engineers 2002-08-18 01:43:55 UTC Re: Shock Warning mariss92705 2002-08-18 04:10:55 UTC Re: Shock Warning stevenson_engineers 2002-08-18 04:30:11 UTC Re: Shock Warning bjammin@i... 2002-08-18 04:35:56 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning bjammin@i... 2002-08-18 04:36:07 UTC waaaay OT JJ 2002-08-18 05:33:10 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning turbulatordude 2002-08-18 06:21:07 UTC Re: waaaay OT Mike 2002-08-18 06:33:12 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson mayfieldtm 2002-08-18 09:08:05 UTC Re: quickie LED lesson Ian W. Wright 2002-08-18 09:38:48 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning Clinton Driggars 2002-08-18 11:48:56 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning wanliker@a... 2002-08-18 12:06:28 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning JanRwl@A... 2002-08-18 13:39:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning JanRwl@A... 2002-08-18 14:00:00 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: waaaay OT JanRwl@A... 2002-08-18 14:04:06 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson George Wealleans 2002-08-18 15:20:00 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning wanliker@a... 2002-08-18 16:59:59 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: waaaay OT cncnovice 2002-08-18 17:28:01 UTC Re: Shock Warning Keith Green 2002-08-18 17:41:29 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning Zoran A. Scepanovic 2002-08-19 01:24:54 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning bjammin@i... 2002-08-19 02:56:12 UTC waaaay waaaaay beyond OT caudlet 2002-08-19 05:35:14 UTC Re: Shock Warning