Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson
Posted by
JanRwl@A...
on 2002-08-17 20:03:43 UTC
In a message dated 17-Aug-02 00:31:11 Central Daylight Time,
andrewlee@... writes:
for plugging into breadboard-sockets or soldering into a PC-board that never
happened, etc. It would be a shame to just chuck these "equal leg" LED's!
Most are clear enough that you can SEE the different electrodes inside the
epoxy encapulation. The one with the BIG gob of metal on it (with the LED
chip on top of it) is the negative. The one with hardly any globbery on the
encapsulated end - only a tiny gold wire welded to it - is the + lead.
LED's should not be thought of as "running on 2 volts" or whatever "voltage".
They are "current devices". "High efficiency" tiny red ones might be fairly
bright at 5 mA. Most T-1-3/4 size work well on 15 to 20 mA. Some might
appear to be working fine on 25 mA, but will "die" very soon if operated over
15 mA. Depends on their design and intended use!
I just got some "blinding white" LED's from one of the mailorder houses, and
that one is completely different! It is full brightness at only 10 mA, but
the measured voltage across this LED at that current is 3.0 volt! MIGHT be
bright enough to make a "penlight", if I can find some optics to fiddle with.
And a pair of 1.5 V alkaline AAA cells would power that @ 10 mA for many
hours! Hmmm...
Be very careful, as an INSTANT short to the wrong voltage/polarity without
the right current-limiting resistor can waste a brand new LED faster than you
can see what happened! And they figuring out "why it won't light" afterwards
is a frustrating mystery! (Same goes for transistors, etc., for THAT
matter!)
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andrewlee@... writes:
> I am trying to wire up a logic probe. I am not too familiar with theLloyd is right, the LONG one on a NEW LED is +. But the leads get clipped
> polarity. Which one is positive, the longer or the shorter leg?
for plugging into breadboard-sockets or soldering into a PC-board that never
happened, etc. It would be a shame to just chuck these "equal leg" LED's!
Most are clear enough that you can SEE the different electrodes inside the
epoxy encapulation. The one with the BIG gob of metal on it (with the LED
chip on top of it) is the negative. The one with hardly any globbery on the
encapsulated end - only a tiny gold wire welded to it - is the + lead.
LED's should not be thought of as "running on 2 volts" or whatever "voltage".
They are "current devices". "High efficiency" tiny red ones might be fairly
bright at 5 mA. Most T-1-3/4 size work well on 15 to 20 mA. Some might
appear to be working fine on 25 mA, but will "die" very soon if operated over
15 mA. Depends on their design and intended use!
I just got some "blinding white" LED's from one of the mailorder houses, and
that one is completely different! It is full brightness at only 10 mA, but
the measured voltage across this LED at that current is 3.0 volt! MIGHT be
bright enough to make a "penlight", if I can find some optics to fiddle with.
And a pair of 1.5 V alkaline AAA cells would power that @ 10 mA for many
hours! Hmmm...
Be very careful, as an INSTANT short to the wrong voltage/polarity without
the right current-limiting resistor can waste a brand new LED faster than you
can see what happened! And they figuring out "why it won't light" afterwards
is a frustrating mystery! (Same goes for transistors, etc., for THAT
matter!)
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Discussion Thread
Lloyd Leung
2002-08-15 21:03:45 UTC
Here's my proposed power supply setup.
mariss92705
2002-08-16 01:13:19 UTC
Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
rawen2
2002-08-16 09:43:38 UTC
Q for Mariss (was Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.)
mayfieldtm
2002-08-16 09:45:38 UTC
Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
JJ
2002-08-16 12:58:43 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
JJ
2002-08-16 13:02:50 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Q for Mariss (was Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.)
mayfieldtm
2002-08-16 14:53:34 UTC
Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
turbulatordude
2002-08-16 15:37:50 UTC
Q for Mariss (was Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.)
mariss92705
2002-08-16 18:32:01 UTC
Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
mariss92705
2002-08-16 18:42:42 UTC
Q for Mariss (was Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.)
Jon Elson
2002-08-16 21:35:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
Lloyd Leung
2002-08-16 22:05:01 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
andrewyslee
2002-08-16 22:30:11 UTC
quickie LED lesson
Lloyd Leung
2002-08-16 22:36:13 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson
turbulatordude
2002-08-17 06:31:37 UTC
Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
Les Watts
2002-08-17 07:25:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
JJ
2002-08-17 09:36:42 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
mariss92705
2002-08-17 11:56:07 UTC
Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
mariss92705
2002-08-17 12:01:00 UTC
Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
Mike
2002-08-17 12:51:50 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson
pcfw
2002-08-17 12:51:50 UTC
Re: quickie LED lesson
Brian
2002-08-17 13:41:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Here's my proposed power supply setup.
mayfieldtm
2002-08-17 13:59:01 UTC
Shock Warning
JJ
2002-08-17 14:32:15 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning
Matt Shaver
2002-08-17 19:31:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning
JanRwl@A...
2002-08-17 20:03:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson
turbulatordude
2002-08-17 20:30:15 UTC
Re: Shock Warning
Keith Green
2002-08-17 20:51:02 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning
mayfieldtm
2002-08-18 00:19:02 UTC
Re: Shock Warning
stevenson_engineers
2002-08-18 01:43:55 UTC
Re: Shock Warning
mariss92705
2002-08-18 04:10:55 UTC
Re: Shock Warning
stevenson_engineers
2002-08-18 04:30:11 UTC
Re: Shock Warning
bjammin@i...
2002-08-18 04:35:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning
bjammin@i...
2002-08-18 04:36:07 UTC
waaaay OT
JJ
2002-08-18 05:33:10 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Shock Warning
turbulatordude
2002-08-18 06:21:07 UTC
Re: waaaay OT
Mike
2002-08-18 06:33:12 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson
mayfieldtm
2002-08-18 09:08:05 UTC
Re: quickie LED lesson
Ian W. Wright
2002-08-18 09:38:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning
Clinton Driggars
2002-08-18 11:48:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning
wanliker@a...
2002-08-18 12:06:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning
JanRwl@A...
2002-08-18 13:39:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning
JanRwl@A...
2002-08-18 14:00:00 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: waaaay OT
JanRwl@A...
2002-08-18 14:04:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] quickie LED lesson
George Wealleans
2002-08-18 15:20:00 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning
wanliker@a...
2002-08-18 16:59:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: waaaay OT
cncnovice
2002-08-18 17:28:01 UTC
Re: Shock Warning
Keith Green
2002-08-18 17:41:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning
Zoran A. Scepanovic
2002-08-19 01:24:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Shock Warning
bjammin@i...
2002-08-19 02:56:12 UTC
waaaay waaaaay beyond OT
caudlet
2002-08-19 05:35:14 UTC
Re: Shock Warning