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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: BP retrofit yaxis drive burnup- follow-up

Posted by Ron Kline
on 2005-04-08 15:00:47 UTC
Keith Clark wrote:

>Ron, we need to compare notes to see if there is a common pattern.
>Mine takes some time to burn also, but I hope my problem was having
>the relay to turn off and on the power supply on the DC side instead
>of the AC side.
>

Mine was wired just like the schematics show with a very normal low tech
power supply and all wiring in flexible conduit .
I'm hoping that my motor was the problem .
Mauriss is coming out this month with "unkillable" drives that he calls
Vampires (note the connection ) and I will get one of them for this
motor as soon as his production drives come in..
This will solve this problem of the big 42 size motors killing the drives


> Now I can't get the x axis to move properly... I
>am going to drop to half winding
>

I'm also running the windings in series ,wonder if that is a
contributing factor ??


> mode and lower current to see if
>that helps in the long run.
>
>Keith
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>--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Ron Kline <godsone@e...>
>wrote:
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>>Hi
>>Be sure to let us know how it holds up later , I chickened out and
>>replaced my motor and the burnt out Gecko hoping that it was the
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>motor
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>>that has been burning out my 201s . The scary part is there is no
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>way to
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>>know and the drives get expensive .
>>I have been running it for 2 days with no problem but in the past
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>it has
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>>taken several months for it to blow .
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>>Keith Clark wrote:
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>>>I'd like to give some follow-up on the complete reworking of my
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>BP
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>>>retrofit. I was burning up Geckos on the y axis. The installer
>>>originally put in everything on top of all the original BP CNC
>>>equipment. I gutted the cabinets and rewired everything. Just
>>>
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>tried
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>>>out the machine and everything works almost. The relay for the DC
>>>powersupply that had been on the DC side got switched to the AC
>>>side. With switching on the DC side there was always a "bump" of
>>>the motors and the backup powersupply for the computer sensed a
>>>spike and briefly shutdown. Now with the AC side switched there
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>is
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>>>no bump. Hopefully the electrical problems are behind me except
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>for
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>>>the fact that the x axis will not run smoothly. It stalls unless
>>>tuned for very slow speed. The y and z axes run at top speed and
>>>acceleration in Mach2, much better than before. It looks like
>>>
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>the
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>>>wires are all connected properly but I will recheck everything
>>>tomorrow. In the old configuration the x axis always ran fine.
>>>
>>>If the wiring is fine and the capacitor across the power on the
>>>Geckos is not bad, what next?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any suggestions.
>>>
>>>Keith Clark
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