RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko problems - What is going on?
Posted by
George Taylor, IV
on 2005-04-08 20:24:40 UTC
Ron,
I would like to put a servo on my Bridgeport knee.
What motor did you use, geared/direct drive, and did
you have to do the springs/pneumatic cylinders thing to
get the knee to move? Putting a drive on the knee seems to
provide a lot of advantages in setup, tool changing etc.
plus, I don't really like driving the quill for the Z.
Any pics of your setup? What did you use for a knee screw?
Thanks
George
-----Original Message-----
From: R Rogers [mailto:rogersmach@...]
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Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko problems - What is going on?
I totally agree Les. I rarely read about a G320/340 blowing. I lost one
because I didn't have the 100 volt 1000uF capacitor at each drive. My
machine was idle and there was a few loud clunks and pops. Consulting
Jon Elson and others it was determined that it was obviously spikes on
the line coming in and the power supply was making that noise. Lost a
drive as a result and it only blew the $2.00 cap inside the drive that I
replaced and its back in service. Adding the large Caps at each Gecko is
a must. They help protect the drives from line spikes and also assist in
filtering the current going to the drive. Before I added them the Z
motor driving the Bridgeport knee would warm significantly after an
hour. Now I can drill holes all day and it stays cool. Made a world of
difference.
The stepper drives are the ones that are problematic. It really isnt the
drive itself, they just require more care in setting up and are not as
forgiving as the servo drives. They are much more complex from what I've
read. Servo drives rarely ever blow. Bad connection on a stepper drive
its gone. Bad connection on a servo drive and it just doesnt move until
its reconnected.
Ron
Les Newell <lesnewell@...> wrote:
It is the stepper drives that seem to have a high mortality rate with
bigger motors. As far as I know the servos are rock solid. I have
toasted 2 stepper drives but the servo drives are still working fine.
Les
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I would like to put a servo on my Bridgeport knee.
What motor did you use, geared/direct drive, and did
you have to do the springs/pneumatic cylinders thing to
get the knee to move? Putting a drive on the knee seems to
provide a lot of advantages in setup, tool changing etc.
plus, I don't really like driving the quill for the Z.
Any pics of your setup? What did you use for a knee screw?
Thanks
George
-----Original Message-----
From: R Rogers [mailto:rogersmach@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:28 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Gecko problems - What is going on?
I totally agree Les. I rarely read about a G320/340 blowing. I lost one
because I didn't have the 100 volt 1000uF capacitor at each drive. My
machine was idle and there was a few loud clunks and pops. Consulting
Jon Elson and others it was determined that it was obviously spikes on
the line coming in and the power supply was making that noise. Lost a
drive as a result and it only blew the $2.00 cap inside the drive that I
replaced and its back in service. Adding the large Caps at each Gecko is
a must. They help protect the drives from line spikes and also assist in
filtering the current going to the drive. Before I added them the Z
motor driving the Bridgeport knee would warm significantly after an
hour. Now I can drill holes all day and it stays cool. Made a world of
difference.
The stepper drives are the ones that are problematic. It really isnt the
drive itself, they just require more care in setting up and are not as
forgiving as the servo drives. They are much more complex from what I've
read. Servo drives rarely ever blow. Bad connection on a stepper drive
its gone. Bad connection on a servo drive and it just doesnt move until
its reconnected.
Ron
Les Newell <lesnewell@...> wrote:
It is the stepper drives that seem to have a high mortality rate with
bigger motors. As far as I know the servos are rock solid. I have
toasted 2 stepper drives but the servo drives are still working fine.
Les
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>There appears to be a number of people reporting problems of "Blowing"timg@...
>Gecko servo drives. As Gecko has such a solid reputation overall
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>Is there something inherent in the design, wherein if you do "this"
>then the drive will "Blow"? Just seems very strange that something
>that works for a couple of months (years whatever), can suddenly blow.
>I am planning a servo driven machine right now and I sure don't want to
>end up watching the drives blow every couple of months because I
>did "Something" that no one can determine what the cause is. This is
>sort of "X files" spooky stuff.
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