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Re: Interface. Gauging interest.

on 2006-05-19 06:58:38 UTC
Why the persistent mindset that step pulses be sent over the serial
interface be it USB or ethernet? That's like trying to use a hammer
as a screwdriver.

The other end of the cable has to have a box. That box has to have
electronics in it to:

1) Try to unsnarl step pulse timing created by serialization while
the PC is still doing donkey-work creating step pulse timing/quantity.

2) Accept much lower bandwidth commands and generate step pulses
locally.

2a) Send ASCII coordinate data, have the box run the motion control
algorithms and generate step pulses. This uses the least bandwidth.

2b) Send velocity commands; have the box turn them into step pulses.
If the velocity command is a 16-bit value and staircasing is 1,000
velocity updates per second, the data rate is 2kB/sec/axis.

Once (2a) was called "smart mode", (2b) was called "dumb mode".

Mariss




--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "yracg" <gcary@...> wrote:
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Mike Pogue <mpogue@> wrote:
> >
> > yracg <gcary@> wrote:
> > > My gut feel says that bit-banging a USB interface isn't going
to give
> > > the performance that most will expect (I could be wrong).
> >
> > Dennis Schmitz wrote:
> > > And you're also right about the USB interface.
> >
> > What kind of performance are you guys expecting out of a USB
interface?
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
> If commands are buffered, I would expect very high-frequency pulse
> trains without glitches. Otherwise I would expect something
> comparable to the parallel port with occasional glitches.
>
> Greg
>

Discussion Thread

Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-12 00:26:44 UTC Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-12 02:33:46 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. lcdpublishing 2006-05-12 04:34:40 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Fred Smith 2006-05-13 09:29:18 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-13 17:57:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. turbulatordude 2006-05-13 18:34:05 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-15 10:03:25 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-15 10:31:40 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Jack Hudler 2006-05-15 10:57:21 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-15 11:21:49 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-15 12:23:16 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Roy J. Tellason 2006-05-15 12:58:17 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-15 13:09:24 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mike Pogue 2006-05-15 13:39:03 UTC USB-to-step/direction (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Codesuidae 2006-05-15 13:51:14 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-15 14:41:53 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Jack Hudler 2006-05-15 14:47:30 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mike 2006-05-15 14:53:37 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-15 14:54:07 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-15 15:07:28 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-15 15:08:32 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Roy J. Tellason 2006-05-15 15:24:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Roy J. Tellason 2006-05-15 15:28:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. lcdpublishing 2006-05-15 16:25:26 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Graham Stabler 2006-05-15 17:26:42 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-15 17:36:42 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-15 18:10:03 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-15 18:32:25 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-15 18:37:07 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB-to-step/direction (was Interface. Gauging interest.) ballendo 2006-05-15 20:35:11 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Jack Hudler 2006-05-15 21:38:44 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. JanRwl@A... 2006-05-15 22:07:34 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mike Pogue 2006-05-15 22:11:15 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB-to-step/direction (was Interface. Gauging interest.) JanRwl@A... 2006-05-15 22:19:53 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-15 22:24:36 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Tony Jeffree 2006-05-15 22:32:10 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dave Halliday 2006-05-15 23:01:44 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mike Pogue 2006-05-16 00:08:57 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mike Pogue 2006-05-16 00:13:54 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Jack Hudler 2006-05-16 00:17:01 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mike Pogue 2006-05-16 00:18:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Lester Caine 2006-05-16 00:24:55 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Jack Hudler 2006-05-16 00:30:57 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 01:08:35 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 01:16:52 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 01:19:38 UTC OT Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 01:25:07 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 01:32:25 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Graham Stabler 2006-05-16 02:07:21 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Lester Caine 2006-05-16 04:23:18 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. lcdpublishing 2006-05-16 06:03:14 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-16 07:49:54 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Roy J. Tellason 2006-05-16 08:04:54 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-16 08:23:35 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-16 09:11:32 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-16 09:14:40 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-16 09:23:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. gort38 2006-05-16 09:36:00 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 09:42:33 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 09:49:07 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 09:55:54 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 10:03:37 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-16 10:05:29 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-16 10:19:18 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-16 10:39:14 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dan Mauch 2006-05-16 11:05:32 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. gort38 2006-05-16 11:32:18 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dave Halliday 2006-05-16 11:32:57 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mike Pogue 2006-05-16 11:51:28 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. wanliker@a... 2006-05-16 12:18:14 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-16 12:35:42 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-16 12:36:26 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Lester Caine 2006-05-16 12:46:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-16 12:53:45 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 13:03:38 UTC OT Re: Interface. Gauging interest. wanliker@a... 2006-05-16 13:05:51 UTC Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-16 14:41:32 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-16 14:43:54 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Phil Mattison 2006-05-16 15:23:22 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-16 15:40:41 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-16 15:53:31 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Steve Blackmore 2006-05-16 17:22:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Phil Mattison 2006-05-16 17:29:41 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-16 18:47:10 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Jon Elson 2006-05-16 21:44:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Lester Caine 2006-05-16 22:42:56 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Steve Blackmore 2006-05-17 00:05:31 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. lcdpublishing 2006-05-17 05:32:10 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-17 07:06:18 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Phil Mattison 2006-05-17 08:51:38 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Roy J. Tellason 2006-05-17 08:55:46 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. lcdpublishing 2006-05-17 09:22:57 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Phil Mattison 2006-05-17 09:47:13 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-17 09:58:14 UTC Irrelevant Gcode?!? wasRe: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-17 10:00:45 UTC irrelevnat Gcodes was Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-17 10:02:38 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. lcdpublishing 2006-05-17 10:13:56 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-17 10:17:41 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Fred Smith 2006-05-17 11:13:43 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Lester Caine 2006-05-17 11:40:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-17 11:57:03 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-17 20:30:08 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Jack Hudler 2006-05-17 21:04:17 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Jack Hudler 2006-05-17 21:04:53 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-17 22:01:51 UTC Re: Irrelevant Gcode?!? wasRe: Interface. Gauging interest. lcdpublishing 2006-05-18 04:58:52 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-18 05:11:22 UTC OT Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Graham Stabler 2006-05-18 05:29:38 UTC OT Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Steve Blackmore 2006-05-18 16:31:07 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. yracg 2006-05-18 20:53:29 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. JanRwl@A... 2006-05-18 21:53:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-18 23:18:55 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mike Pogue 2006-05-19 00:51:04 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. yracg 2006-05-19 05:49:15 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Peter Reilley 2006-05-19 05:59:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. yracg 2006-05-19 06:22:16 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-19 06:58:38 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-19 07:24:10 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-19 07:26:29 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-19 07:28:18 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Phil Mattison 2006-05-19 07:49:51 UTC [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-19 08:29:00 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. yracg 2006-05-19 08:31:36 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Wayne Weedon 2006-05-19 08:40:45 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Wayne C. Gramlich 2006-05-19 08:51:48 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-19 08:55:11 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. wanliker@a... 2006-05-19 09:11:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Lester Caine 2006-05-19 09:37:14 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-19 09:41:18 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-19 09:47:00 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Codesuidae 2006-05-19 09:48:54 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-19 09:53:38 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. John Dammeyer 2006-05-19 09:54:19 UTC USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Jack Hudler 2006-05-19 09:57:07 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-19 10:40:21 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-19 10:56:20 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) John Dammeyer 2006-05-19 11:23:37 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Mike Pogue 2006-05-19 11:59:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Lester Caine 2006-05-19 12:05:26 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-19 12:07:56 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-19 12:27:31 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Alan Marconett 2006-05-19 12:48:01 UTC RE: USB DLP2232M CNC, Was Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-19 12:56:08 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Wayne C. Gramlich 2006-05-19 13:33:20 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Wayne C. Gramlich 2006-05-19 13:36:36 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Wayne C. Gramlich 2006-05-19 14:00:01 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) ballendo 2006-05-19 14:06:06 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-19 14:16:09 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) lcdpublishing 2006-05-19 14:28:40 UTC Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-19 14:42:25 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest. delmar williams 2006-05-19 14:45:24 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest. Lester Caine 2006-05-19 15:06:22 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest. Wayne C. Gramlich 2006-05-19 15:34:56 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Codesuidae 2006-05-19 15:48:06 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Wayne Weedon 2006-05-19 15:54:46 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. John Dammeyer 2006-05-19 17:13:01 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest. Paul Kelly 2006-05-19 17:19:27 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest. Mike Pogue 2006-05-19 17:54:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RE: USB DLP2232M CNC, Was Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-19 17:59:40 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Anders Wallin 2006-05-19 21:49:32 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest. Wayne C. Gramlich 2006-05-20 00:00:48 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) bob_kellock 2006-05-20 03:18:22 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Les Newell 2006-05-20 05:06:27 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Alan Marconett 2006-05-20 10:59:18 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Wayne C. Gramlich 2006-05-20 11:58:09 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Mariss Freimanis 2006-05-20 13:37:35 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Alan Marconett 2006-05-20 14:14:20 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Hugh Prescott 2006-05-20 15:13:59 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Graham Stabler 2006-05-20 15:57:23 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Alan Marconett 2006-05-20 16:00:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC Dennis Schmitz 2006-05-20 16:48:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ronginger@a... 2006-05-20 17:53:16 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Jack Hudler 2006-05-20 19:23:01 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest. Jack Hudler 2006-05-20 19:28:08 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-20 22:05:57 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. ballendo 2006-05-20 22:26:51 UTC Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Mike Pogue 2006-05-21 01:49:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Alan Marconett 2006-05-21 10:26:01 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.) Alan Marconett 2006-05-21 16:54:05 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RE: USB DLP2232M CNC, Was Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Mariss Freimanis 2006-06-06 19:39:41 UTC Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Fred Smith 2006-06-06 20:44:50 UTC ncPOD update, was Re: Interface. Gauging interest. John Stevenson 2006-06-06 22:55:16 UTC ncPOD update, was Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Tony Jeffree 2006-06-07 00:20:00 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] ncPOD update, was Re: Interface. Gauging interest. Tony Jeffree 2006-06-07 00:30:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] ncPOD update, was Re: Interface. Gauging interest. turbulatordude 2006-06-07 08:34:04 UTC ncPOD update, Fred Smith 2006-06-07 11:00:14 UTC Re: ncPOD update, Tony Jeffree 2006-06-07 13:19:30 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: ncPOD update,