Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Posted by
Dennis Schmitz
on 2006-05-19 08:55:11 UTC
You know every time the software group says that Ethernet isn't
deterministic, I have to make them tell me exactly what they mean.
Some think it means packet loss, some think it means you can't predict
the queue performance in switches, some think it means that the stack
performance sucks, and some people think it's because Ethernet doesn't
use synchronous clocking. Well simply put, in a closed system you can
address every issue that makes Ethernet underperform. Same goes for
USB, as you illustrated by attacking the issues as a Maker rather than
a User.
My less than clear point (I tend to make a lot of less than clear
points) is that if you use rule-of-thumb engineering, you're making a
mistake.
In this case what I mean by USB not being deterministic is that you
can't (meaning it's really hard/expensive) deliver packets without
temporal jitter. It's not designed for it. 1394, on the other hand is
designed for it.
deterministic, I have to make them tell me exactly what they mean.
Some think it means packet loss, some think it means you can't predict
the queue performance in switches, some think it means that the stack
performance sucks, and some people think it's because Ethernet doesn't
use synchronous clocking. Well simply put, in a closed system you can
address every issue that makes Ethernet underperform. Same goes for
USB, as you illustrated by attacking the issues as a Maker rather than
a User.
My less than clear point (I tend to make a lot of less than clear
points) is that if you use rule-of-thumb engineering, you're making a
mistake.
In this case what I mean by USB not being deterministic is that you
can't (meaning it's really hard/expensive) deliver packets without
temporal jitter. It's not designed for it. 1394, on the other hand is
designed for it.
On 5/19/06, Peter Reilley <micrio@...> wrote:
> It is wrong to say that USB is not deterministic, it is. USB frames
> operate on a strict 1 millisecond cycle. This is unlike Ethernet which
> operates on a random access mechanism.
Discussion Thread
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-12 00:26:44 UTC
Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-12 02:33:46 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
lcdpublishing
2006-05-12 04:34:40 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Fred Smith
2006-05-13 09:29:18 UTC
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Codesuidae
2006-05-13 17:57:12 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
turbulatordude
2006-05-13 18:34:05 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Codesuidae
2006-05-15 10:03:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-15 10:31:40 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Jack Hudler
2006-05-15 10:57:21 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-15 11:21:49 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Codesuidae
2006-05-15 12:23:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Roy J. Tellason
2006-05-15 12:58:17 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-15 13:09:24 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mike Pogue
2006-05-15 13:39:03 UTC
USB-to-step/direction (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Codesuidae
2006-05-15 13:51:14 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-15 14:41:53 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Jack Hudler
2006-05-15 14:47:30 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mike
2006-05-15 14:53:37 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-15 14:54:07 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-15 15:07:28 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-15 15:08:32 UTC
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Roy J. Tellason
2006-05-15 15:24:52 UTC
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Roy J. Tellason
2006-05-15 15:28:12 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-05-15 16:25:26 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2006-05-15 17:26:42 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-15 17:36:42 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-15 18:10:03 UTC
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Codesuidae
2006-05-15 18:32:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Codesuidae
2006-05-15 18:37:07 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB-to-step/direction (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
ballendo
2006-05-15 20:35:11 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Jack Hudler
2006-05-15 21:38:44 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
JanRwl@A...
2006-05-15 22:07:34 UTC
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Mike Pogue
2006-05-15 22:11:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB-to-step/direction (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
JanRwl@A...
2006-05-15 22:19:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-15 22:24:36 UTC
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Tony Jeffree
2006-05-15 22:32:10 UTC
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Dave Halliday
2006-05-15 23:01:44 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mike Pogue
2006-05-16 00:08:57 UTC
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Mike Pogue
2006-05-16 00:13:54 UTC
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Jack Hudler
2006-05-16 00:17:01 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mike Pogue
2006-05-16 00:18:23 UTC
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Lester Caine
2006-05-16 00:24:55 UTC
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Jack Hudler
2006-05-16 00:30:57 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-16 01:08:35 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-16 01:16:52 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-16 01:19:38 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-16 01:25:07 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-16 01:32:25 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2006-05-16 02:07:21 UTC
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Lester Caine
2006-05-16 04:23:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
lcdpublishing
2006-05-16 06:03:14 UTC
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Alan Marconett
2006-05-16 07:49:54 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Roy J. Tellason
2006-05-16 08:04:54 UTC
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Alan Marconett
2006-05-16 08:23:35 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-16 09:11:32 UTC
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Codesuidae
2006-05-16 09:14:40 UTC
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Codesuidae
2006-05-16 09:23:11 UTC
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gort38
2006-05-16 09:36:00 UTC
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2006-05-16 09:42:33 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-16 09:49:07 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-16 09:55:54 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-16 10:03:37 UTC
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Alan Marconett
2006-05-16 10:05:29 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-16 10:19:18 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-16 10:39:14 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dan Mauch
2006-05-16 11:05:32 UTC
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gort38
2006-05-16 11:32:18 UTC
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Dave Halliday
2006-05-16 11:32:57 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mike Pogue
2006-05-16 11:51:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
wanliker@a...
2006-05-16 12:18:14 UTC
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Codesuidae
2006-05-16 12:35:42 UTC
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Alan Marconett
2006-05-16 12:36:26 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Lester Caine
2006-05-16 12:46:11 UTC
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Alan Marconett
2006-05-16 12:53:45 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-16 13:03:38 UTC
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wanliker@a...
2006-05-16 13:05:51 UTC
Interface. Gauging interest.
Codesuidae
2006-05-16 14:41:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-16 14:43:54 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Phil Mattison
2006-05-16 15:23:22 UTC
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Codesuidae
2006-05-16 15:40:41 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-16 15:53:31 UTC
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Steve Blackmore
2006-05-16 17:22:39 UTC
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Phil Mattison
2006-05-16 17:29:41 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-16 18:47:10 UTC
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Jon Elson
2006-05-16 21:44:52 UTC
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Lester Caine
2006-05-16 22:42:56 UTC
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Steve Blackmore
2006-05-17 00:05:31 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-05-17 05:32:10 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-17 07:06:18 UTC
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Phil Mattison
2006-05-17 08:51:38 UTC
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Roy J. Tellason
2006-05-17 08:55:46 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-05-17 09:22:57 UTC
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Phil Mattison
2006-05-17 09:47:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-17 09:58:14 UTC
Irrelevant Gcode?!? wasRe: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-17 10:00:45 UTC
irrelevnat Gcodes was Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-17 10:02:38 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-05-17 10:13:56 UTC
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ballendo
2006-05-17 10:17:41 UTC
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Fred Smith
2006-05-17 11:13:43 UTC
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Lester Caine
2006-05-17 11:40:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-17 11:57:03 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-17 20:30:08 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Jack Hudler
2006-05-17 21:04:17 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Jack Hudler
2006-05-17 21:04:53 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-17 22:01:51 UTC
Re: Irrelevant Gcode?!? wasRe: Interface. Gauging interest.
lcdpublishing
2006-05-18 04:58:52 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-18 05:11:22 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2006-05-18 05:29:38 UTC
OT Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Steve Blackmore
2006-05-18 16:31:07 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
yracg
2006-05-18 20:53:29 UTC
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JanRwl@A...
2006-05-18 21:53:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-18 23:18:55 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mike Pogue
2006-05-19 00:51:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
yracg
2006-05-19 05:49:15 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Peter Reilley
2006-05-19 05:59:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
yracg
2006-05-19 06:22:16 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-19 06:58:38 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Codesuidae
2006-05-19 07:24:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-19 07:26:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-19 07:28:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Phil Mattison
2006-05-19 07:49:51 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-19 08:29:00 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
yracg
2006-05-19 08:31:36 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Wayne Weedon
2006-05-19 08:40:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Wayne C. Gramlich
2006-05-19 08:51:48 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-19 08:55:11 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
wanliker@a...
2006-05-19 09:11:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Lester Caine
2006-05-19 09:37:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-19 09:41:18 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-19 09:47:00 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Codesuidae
2006-05-19 09:48:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-19 09:53:38 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
John Dammeyer
2006-05-19 09:54:19 UTC
USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Jack Hudler
2006-05-19 09:57:07 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-19 10:40:21 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-19 10:56:20 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
John Dammeyer
2006-05-19 11:23:37 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Mike Pogue
2006-05-19 11:59:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Lester Caine
2006-05-19 12:05:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-19 12:07:56 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-19 12:27:31 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Alan Marconett
2006-05-19 12:48:01 UTC
RE: USB DLP2232M CNC, Was Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-19 12:56:08 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Wayne C. Gramlich
2006-05-19 13:33:20 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Wayne C. Gramlich
2006-05-19 13:36:36 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Wayne C. Gramlich
2006-05-19 14:00:01 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
ballendo
2006-05-19 14:06:06 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-19 14:16:09 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
lcdpublishing
2006-05-19 14:28:40 UTC
Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-19 14:42:25 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest.
delmar williams
2006-05-19 14:45:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest.
Lester Caine
2006-05-19 15:06:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest.
Wayne C. Gramlich
2006-05-19 15:34:56 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Codesuidae
2006-05-19 15:48:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Wayne Weedon
2006-05-19 15:54:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
John Dammeyer
2006-05-19 17:13:01 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest.
Paul Kelly
2006-05-19 17:19:27 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest.
Mike Pogue
2006-05-19 17:54:12 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RE: USB DLP2232M CNC, Was Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-19 17:59:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Anders Wallin
2006-05-19 21:49:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest.
Wayne C. Gramlich
2006-05-20 00:00:48 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
bob_kellock
2006-05-20 03:18:22 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Les Newell
2006-05-20 05:06:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Alan Marconett
2006-05-20 10:59:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Wayne C. Gramlich
2006-05-20 11:58:09 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Mariss Freimanis
2006-05-20 13:37:35 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Alan Marconett
2006-05-20 14:14:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Hugh Prescott
2006-05-20 15:13:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Graham Stabler
2006-05-20 15:57:23 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Alan Marconett
2006-05-20 16:00:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC
Dennis Schmitz
2006-05-20 16:48:12 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ronginger@a...
2006-05-20 17:53:16 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Jack Hudler
2006-05-20 19:23:01 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: PCI interface was ....Interface. Gauging interest.
Jack Hudler
2006-05-20 19:28:08 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-20 22:05:57 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
ballendo
2006-05-20 22:26:51 UTC
Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Mike Pogue
2006-05-21 01:49:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Alan Marconett
2006-05-21 10:26:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: USB CNC (was Interface. Gauging interest.)
Alan Marconett
2006-05-21 16:54:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RE: USB DLP2232M CNC, Was Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Mariss Freimanis
2006-06-06 19:39:41 UTC
Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Fred Smith
2006-06-06 20:44:50 UTC
ncPOD update, was Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
John Stevenson
2006-06-06 22:55:16 UTC
ncPOD update, was Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Tony Jeffree
2006-06-07 00:20:00 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] ncPOD update, was Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
Tony Jeffree
2006-06-07 00:30:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] ncPOD update, was Re: Interface. Gauging interest.
turbulatordude
2006-06-07 08:34:04 UTC
ncPOD update,
Fred Smith
2006-06-07 11:00:14 UTC
Re: ncPOD update,
Tony Jeffree
2006-06-07 13:19:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: ncPOD update,