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RE: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CAD experiment entry

Posted by Peter Homann
on 2010-12-13 18:48:08 UTC
Hi Andy,

Why delete the dimensions? I just put them on a separate layer and tell
the CAM software (Sheetcam) to ignore that layer.

Cheers,

Peter.



Andy Wander wrote:
> I see what you are saying, J, and for a business that is very valid. But
> for me, in my shop, I don't have any need to print it out, get it QC'd or
> approved, etc.
>
> I also think that the CAM programs that most hobbyists will be using(or at
> least the ones I use) are very likely to use 2D dxfs, and dimensions will
> appear as entities to be cut.
>
> While making a drawing, though, I do frequently dimension it, to make sure
> I am doing it right, and then I erase the dimensions before saving as dxf
> for CAM import.
>
> Andy Wander
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CAD experiment entry
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> I guess that would depend on the CAM. All the CAM products I've used do
> use the 'drawing' per say, but rather the Model. I've yet to see a CAM
> that imports a solid Model [or in the case of an integrated CAM like
> SolidCAM or HSMworks] to ever see or use a dimension [unless for linking a
> property]. It isn't really even a concideration.
>
> I will however add that while a paperless workflow is a great thing to
> attain to, in my experiance it is a rare occurance for prismatic parts
> [injection molds etc are a different matter]. To properly machine a part
> and deliver a finished product, it must go through a Q/C process at some
> point [at least on initial production run parts and usually on spot
> checked parts there-after] and this does still require a drawing [either
> paper or electronically viewable] to qualify that the part is w/in
> tolerance.
>
> J. Johnson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andy Wander <awander@...>
> Date: Monday, December 13, 2010 7:11 pm
> Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CAD experiment entry
>
>> I was just thinking that the dimensions are not needed, and
>> actually just mean one more step when going from the CAD drawing
>> to the CAM program. You will have to either delete them or tell
>> the CAM program to ignore them.
>>
>>
>> Andy Wander
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of timgoldstein
>> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 7:25 PM
>> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: CAD experiment entry
>>
>> Just for those that don't know, while we have focused on
>> discussing the drawing that Ron posted, the reality is in many of
>> the CAM programs to make the G-code for the part it would not even
>> be used.
>>
>> I do my CAM in FeatureCAM. Have also worked in and have a current
>> license of VisualMill. Both work from the 3D solids file. The
>> drawing is just to communicate additional details in most cases. I
>> know that I have many times been given only a solid file for an
>> outside job and drawing were never created.
>>
>> Point is, the drawing is only additional info in the process of
>> going from CAD > CAM > G-Code > a final part and not something you
>> have to have.
>>
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