Re: Printed Circuit Board Supplies
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2000-02-09 12:42:06 UTC
Ted Robbins wrote:
resists over the
years, I can say that nothing else comes close! The resist is almost as
tough as
a good solder mask! It takes a serious accident to scratch it, and it
is impervious
to hours of soaking in hot etchant. The developer is sodium carbonate,
a relative
of baking soda.
boards that are less than
perfectly clean. I clean them as well as I can, but they still have a
few spots or slight
blemishes on them. The resist still sticks to the entire board, blemish
or not.
I use yellow incandescent bug lights, and turn off the fluorescents in
the area when
I'm working with these.
qualms about
using dry film. The Fe2Cl3 etchant is pretty hard on skin, but I use
rubbermaid
gloves, and really have no problem with it. I'm using the same 3
gallons of etchant
I started out with 10 years ago (after I moved my shop) and it still is
going strong.
So, the chemical waste problem is not a big one. The routing process is
not
entirely clean, either, as you are making a LOT of fiberglass/epoxy
dust.
Jon
> From: Ted Robbins <rtr@...>I use DuPont Riston dry film resist. Having tried a number of other
>
> >From: hansw <hansw@...>
> >
> >the same boards today are over $133 ! close to double price in 9
> >months...
> >
> >I looking for a different source, any recommendation, in the USA...
> Before I gave up trying to run a circuit shop in a "Green" community,
> I
> built them. I used screening techniques to do production, but I used
> photosensitized boards to do prototypes.
resists over the
years, I can say that nothing else comes close! The resist is almost as
tough as
a good solder mask! It takes a serious accident to scratch it, and it
is impervious
to hours of soaking in hot etchant. The developer is sodium carbonate,
a relative
of baking soda.
> I sensitized them with photosensitive polymers. They are available inThe hot roll laminating of the dry film allows it to stick well to
> both
> positive and negative working chemistries. The only real trick is to
> get
> the boars very clean. Water must sheet over it, not stand in drops.
> You
> can pour the sensitizer over the board in ordinary room light. I
> prefered
> incandescent to flourescent because flourescent contains a lot more
> UV.
boards that are less than
perfectly clean. I clean them as well as I can, but they still have a
few spots or slight
blemishes on them. The resist still sticks to the entire board, blemish
or not.
I use yellow incandescent bug lights, and turn off the fluorescents in
the area when
I'm working with these.
> Having said al that, I must add that I would never use a chemicalI don't ever want to use the KPR type process again, but I have no
> process
> again. The paranoia of experience compels me to point out the legal
> danger
> you face when using chemicals. Technical illiterates saving their
> planet
> will make your life very difficult. I would route boards today, not
> because it is a good way to make a board, but because you could easily
> end
> up in jail using rather common and relatively innocuous reagents.
qualms about
using dry film. The Fe2Cl3 etchant is pretty hard on skin, but I use
rubbermaid
gloves, and really have no problem with it. I'm using the same 3
gallons of etchant
I started out with 10 years ago (after I moved my shop) and it still is
going strong.
So, the chemical waste problem is not a big one. The routing process is
not
entirely clean, either, as you are making a LOT of fiberglass/epoxy
dust.
Jon
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hansw
2000-02-08 14:21:46 UTC
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2000-02-11 06:05:39 UTC
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2000-02-11 05:53:19 UTC
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2000-02-11 08:15:29 UTC
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