Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Phase converter questions
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2004-01-17 20:26:00 UTC
Peter Renolds wrote:
that
practically ALL VFDs made after 1990 will run off of single phase. If you
intend to use them heavily, it is a good idea to "derate" them, in other
words,
use a VFD with a higher rating than the motor, by perhaps 50%.
I have a 1 Hp "3-phase input only" VFD on my 1 Hp Bridgeport mill that
I have been using in a home shop environment for a number of years,
with no trouble whatsoever. When I use my high speed spindle that
draws a lot of current, I put a fan on the heat sink of the VFD to give it
a break.
of this is it gives the rectifiers and filter capacitors a slightly
reduced load.
For the home shop environement, they are already pretty adequate.
Remember, these devices are designed to run at 100% load for 5 years
continuously in a cabinet or machine room at 50 C. That heat and 40,000
operating hours far exceeds what it is likely to see in a home shop in
decades of use.
I do agree that a modest derating for the single-phase supply is a good
thing
to do.
Jon
>Keep in mind most VFD's will generally only work on single phase powerYes, this is the way the manufacturers rate them. However, it turns out
>up to about a 3 HP motor size. After that, they require 3 phase power
>on the input side.
>
that
practically ALL VFDs made after 1990 will run off of single phase. If you
intend to use them heavily, it is a good idea to "derate" them, in other
words,
use a VFD with a higher rating than the motor, by perhaps 50%.
I have a 1 Hp "3-phase input only" VFD on my 1 Hp Bridgeport mill that
I have been using in a home shop environment for a number of years,
with no trouble whatsoever. When I use my high speed spindle that
draws a lot of current, I put a fan on the heat sink of the VFD to give it
a break.
> So unless you're running a 3HP or smaller motor youReally, the rotary converter for the VFD is pretty silly. The only benefit
>may still need a rotary converter to generate the 3 phases you need to
>supply a larger powered VFD - if you want the flexibility a VFD offers
>for motor control. I wouldn't expect many HSM's to require much more
>than a 3HP spindle motor - but I may be mistaken...
>
>
of this is it gives the rectifiers and filter capacitors a slightly
reduced load.
For the home shop environement, they are already pretty adequate.
Remember, these devices are designed to run at 100% load for 5 years
continuously in a cabinet or machine room at 50 C. That heat and 40,000
operating hours far exceeds what it is likely to see in a home shop in
decades of use.
I do agree that a modest derating for the single-phase supply is a good
thing
to do.
Jon
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jlsmith269
2004-01-17 09:31:30 UTC
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2004-01-17 10:49:32 UTC
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2004-01-17 11:18:52 UTC
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