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Re: Hp 7475 Plotter Servo's

Posted by emc3zach
on 2005-10-20 14:29:58 UTC
I have not tried changing the chips. I'll have a look at that,
maybe try and do some logic probe testing on them. I would like to
know what the problem is. Thanks

Victor A. Estes

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Prescott"
<hugh345@a...> wrote:
>
> Just a thought
>
> Have you tried changing the 1489, 1488, 751XX RS-232 interface
chips that
> service the serial port.
>
> Could also be the 40 pin UART chip.
>
> They might have been damaged by static / misswired cable etc.
These two
> chips are the connection to the outside world from the plotter.
>
> The chip numbers listed above are from the schematic for my HP
7585B plotter
> probably common to all HP plotters of that era.
>
> Sounds like scope and logic probe time.
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ Waters" <mycncworld@y...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Hp 7475 Plotter Servo's
>
>
> > Hi... I just seen your post, and if it helps, it is a "null"
cable that
> you will need. I have on that I used to use to plot my drawings,
but now is
> just collecting dust on the shelf! I do have manuals and if you
need any
> specific information, just let me know and I will do my best to
pass them
> on.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> > "Victor A. Estes" <emc3zach@h...> wrote:
> > Alan (KM6VV), Tom H., Dave M., and anyone else I may have missed,
> >
> > First off, thanks for all of the help in trying to solve my
plotter
> > problem. I still have not been able to get it to respond to any
commands
> > from the computer in DOS, or Basic, or Windows. Even though the
plotter
> > will power up and perform it's demo plot with no problem. And
still have
> > the blinking error light that will not reset. The manual talks
about
> > getting error information from the plotter using ESC commands,
but I have
> > not been able to figure that one out. It says that ESC.E should
report
> back
> > what the error is causing the blinking light. But I am too inept
to get it
> > to work I guess.
> >
> > So will keep trying and probably scrap it for the servo's for a
future
> > eggbot project. In the meantime I picked up several steppers
that I will
> > initially use in my eggbot project. Vinyl cutting will have to
come later,
> > or use the cutter on my mill.
> >
> > Which brings me to the cutter. I have pics and a description of
the
> > cutter for you guy's and anyone else who would like to see it.
But as luck
> > would have it, I wanted to upload the photo's on the group site,
but I
> > cannot find a link to create an album and upload the photo's. So
if
> someone
> > would tell me how to do it I will, or provide your direct email
addresses
> > and I will email to you directly.
> >
> > I would like to see if this cutter works, there is no reason
that it
> > should not, but it still would be nice to see it actually work.
> >
> > Let me know guys, and sorry about the delay, I am also a
procrastinator.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Victor A. Estes
> > emc3zach@h...
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alan Marconett"
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:30 AM
> > Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Hp 7475 Plotter Servo's
> >
> >
> > > Hi Vector,
> > >
> > > It could very well be a NULL modem cable that's required. I
was hoping
> to
> > > find my manual last night, but failed.
> > >
> > > I still have it cabled up to one of my older computers and a
serial
> > > switch,
> > > so that would be a way to verify what is needed. And the dip
switches
> > > will
> > > be set up, probably 9600 baud for me.
> > >
> > > If the LED is blinking, then it didn't like one of your
commands. You
> > > might
> > > route the plot commands to a file (still 7475 format), and see
what they
> > > look like. First char for initialization is an ESC (which
doesn't print
> > > very well in a text file), then two more characters, like I
copied in my
> > > email. Then possibly one or two more initialization codes, and
then plot
> > > commands.
> > >
> > > From DOS, you can "copy" a valid PLT file to the plotter, and
that is a
> > > basic test. Baud rate must be set up, of course.
> > >
> > > I'd be curious how you made a drag cutter out of a 7475 pen.
> > >
> > > Alan KM6VV
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> > >> [mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor
A. Estes
> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 6:20 AM
> > >> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Hp 7475 Plotter Servo's
> > >>
> > >> Alan,
> > >>
> > >> According to everything I have read on the plotter a NULL
Modem cable
> > >> is
> > >> required. So I went out and bought a new serial cable with a
null modem
> > >> adaptor. Still does not work. This was after I tried making
my own
> > >> cable
> > >> based on the pin outs that I had read would work, no joy. I
set the
> baud
> > >> rate, parity, stop bits, and everything on the dip switches
just as I
> had
> > >> read was the thing to do from several different web sites on
turning a
> > >> 7475
> > >> into a vinyl cutter. I'm running windows xp and the driver
for it is a
> > >> HPGL/2 driver which I understand will not work. Has to be a
straight
> > >> HPGL
> > >> driver, windows 3.1, 95, and 98 have it. But I thought I
would try
> > >> anyway
> > >> to see if I could get any response fro the plotter. When I
failed to
> get
> > >> it
> > >> to respond out of windows xp I switch to the DOS window and
tried to
> the
> > >> direct commands by activating the COM1 port, still no joy. So
I am
> still
> > >> at
> > >> a loss here. In my original post I did not mention that I
made a real
> > >> neat
> > >> drag knife holder for the plotter out of one of the original
pins. I
> > >> want
> > >> to try vinyl cutting with it. If I cannot get that to work
then I want
> > >> to
> > >> take it apart and make the eggbot.
> > >>
> > >> Victor
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Alan Marconett"
> > >> To:
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:01 PM
> > >> Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Hp 7475 Plotter Servo's
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Victor,
> > >> >
> > >> > Are you sure a NULL MODEM cable is required? I have a 7475A
plotter.
> > >> > I
> > >> > probably haven't plotted with it for 10 years. There is
also a switch
> > >> for
> > >> > baud rate, as I recall. Insure that you are talking the
proper baud
> > >> rate,
> > >> > parity, stop bits, etc. (which I'm sure you've already
checked).
> > >> >
> > >> > I wouldn't mind finding a 7475 plotter that I could
experiment with
> as
> > >> you
> > >> > describe! I even started an EGGBOT project a few years ago.
> > >> >
> > >> > Alan KM6VV
> > >> >
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Discussion Thread

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