RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Xylotex Pwr Sup replacement
Posted by
Dave Halliday
on 2011-11-13 14:36:15 UTC
I have mentioned a few times before but a microwave oven has an excellent
transformer for this purpose.
#1) - do not play with it (plug it in) while the high voltage winding is
still in place. The voltages and currents developed can be instantly lethal.
#2) - because the high voltage winding is so high (around 2,500 volts), the
primary and the secondary windings are separate. Most transformers have
these wound on top of each other. This allows you to remove the high
voltage winding with a hammer and cold chisel. There will also be a
filament winding -- two or three turns of thick wire; this can just be
unwound.
#3) - wind ten turns of insulated wire around where the high voltage winding
used to be, power it up and measure the resultant voltage on your new
secondary. Divide by ten and this will be your turns/volt.
You can then figure out from there how many turns are needed.
The advantage of these is that dead microwave ovens are free and the
transformer is good for 500-800 watts continuous power. Excellent for
projects like this.
Dave
transformer for this purpose.
#1) - do not play with it (plug it in) while the high voltage winding is
still in place. The voltages and currents developed can be instantly lethal.
#2) - because the high voltage winding is so high (around 2,500 volts), the
primary and the secondary windings are separate. Most transformers have
these wound on top of each other. This allows you to remove the high
voltage winding with a hammer and cold chisel. There will also be a
filament winding -- two or three turns of thick wire; this can just be
unwound.
#3) - wind ten turns of insulated wire around where the high voltage winding
used to be, power it up and measure the resultant voltage on your new
secondary. Divide by ten and this will be your turns/volt.
You can then figure out from there how many turns are needed.
The advantage of these is that dead microwave ovens are free and the
transformer is good for 500-800 watts continuous power. Excellent for
projects like this.
Dave
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> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Xylotex Pwr Sup replacement
>
> you really need to keep the voltage lower.
> remember that the decel of a drive will spike the power
> supply. fast decel times can make the voltage jump.
>
> if you can put your hands on a computer battery back-up, you
> can get some high amps from the transformer.
>
> also, a car charger will have a large transformer.
>
> you will still need capacitors and diodes to get DC from
> these AC units.
>
> you can lower the amp rating of the drive temporarally while
> waiting for the perfect fix.
>
> all electronics offers power supplies that are DC, you should
> be able to get one in a few days.
>
> Dave
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "ebiz_59" <chuckm@...> wrote:
> >
> > Murphy bit the Xylotex box on our minimill tonight. It
> appears as though the 24V 6A power supply gave up the ghost -
> just when we were FINALLY making our first part for our FTC robot.
> >
> > So I need some ideas for replacing this power supply
> quickly. I think I saw a 30V power supply on an HP printer
> the other day, but I'm thinking it was only a couple amps.
> And I think I might have a 15-20V 4ish amp laptop supply lying around.
> >
> > Any other thots? And what are the odds that the Xylotex
> drives are OK if this power supply board is only putting out
> like 1.5V? Should I be looking for another set of stepper
> drivers too?
> >
> > Ugh! Chuck
> >
>
>
>
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