All those in favor of simple interfaces, say "I" was Re: Whither goest DOS?

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "j.guenther" <j.guenther@v...> wrote:
> Here Here!
>
> I agree completely, not just for controls but for many other
things. There
> us many a pretty GUI out there that is a real PIA, IMHO to use. I
don't
> like the Master5 GUI either, I wish he would allow you to configure
what
> functions you want to see and use. Too many buttons and boxes on
the screen
> lead to confusion, especially when you are dealing with a machine
that you
> need total control of from a safety standpoint. I greatly respect
the work
> that has gone into Master5 and hope that Art continues the
development
> effort. I have attempted to used it, but Master5 and my shop
computer don't
> agree with each other so I am sticking with EMC.
>
> John Guenther
> Sterling, Virginia
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ballendo [mailto:ballendo@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:18 AM
> > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y...
> > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Whither goest DOS?
> >
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > Many of your points do not apply to DOS itself, but rather the way
> > cnc control writers have used it. When I walk up to any but the
> > newest, and most expensive commercial cnc machines, what I am
dealing
> > with is a LOT more like DOS, than windows...
> >
> > And I can do nearly all the things you mention rather handily, as
the
> > control was written TO be able to do these things. Now the screen
is
> > not as colorful, but for plain WORK-ability these controls do just
> > fine...
> >
> > I DO wish control writers (on whatever platform) would consider
ALL
> > the things an operator/programmer might need to do at the
> > machine/control.
> >
> > I remember one (pc based)control that required me to use a
calculator
> > to figure some number the control needed. When I mentioned this to
> > the programmer, he said, "So? What is the problem with that?"
> >
> > I said,"I'm standing at a COMPUTER, riigghht?" :-)
> >
> > That same control had a "move to coords" dialog box (dos
equivalent,
> > anyway) that came up OVER the coordinate displays... so you'd
WRITE
> > THEM DOWN first :-(
> >
> > So I think it has more to do with program DESIGN, than PLATFORM...
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Ballendo
> >
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., CL <datac@l...> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > I would not even consider anything less than my dedicated Control
> > computer be
> > > a Windows Computer. At a moments notice, I can toggle in and
out of
> > an
> > > Excellent G-Code text editor. I often want to tweak up a program
> > just a
> > > little especially when I am going to do repetative runs. The
better
> > I can
> > > execute the path on the machine, the faster it will be the next
> > time I run
> > > the same job.
> > >
> > > How about that really quick piece of code you rambled up by hand
> > and sent
> > > over to the Control via ethernet ? Might it be real nice to just
> > pop open
> > > that Toolpath Verification program and run it thru there before
> > hitting the
> > > start switch, No?
> > >
> > > And, what about an old file you have not used in a long time? I
do
> > not know
> > > about you, but I have not seen a decent DOS file manager in my
life.
> > >
> > > I made the change to Windows control and have not looked back
> > because it is<snip>
> >
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