Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Posted by
audiomaker2000
on 2002-05-03 18:19:36 UTC
Followup:
Well, I just got off the phone with Mariss and I won't even go into
how much I did wrong, but suffice it to say that a couple things
were indeed wrong with my setup.
If you think Mariss knows alot from his posts on the board, then
don't call him unless you've taken your Ginko Galoba because you
will be saturated with information very quickly.
He was extremely helpful and hopefully the problems are resolved.
My only wish is that the manuals were a bit more explicit in what is
a "tune up" sort of thing and what is a "blow up" kind of thing.
For instance, I did not put the capacitor in the power line since
my leads are more than 18" from the power supply (didn't have any
handy), but I wrongly figured this was to somehow smooth out the
voltage but might only loose a bit of performace without
them...wrong... they are critical to the safety of the drive.
Another thing I learned from Mariss is that fuses between the DC
supply and the drive act as resistors and increase the need for this
cap.
To go on...
I also learned that when you use only 4 wires of a 6 wire motor,
that you are in essence changing it from a parallel configuration to
a series and need to limit the current. My understanding was that
the motor was rated at 8 amps from the factory, and that it was
series wired from the factory, meaning that it would require 8 amps
in the state it was in unless I *changed* the wiring so I didn't
have any current resistor in there....mistake. Not connecting those
two extra wires put my current needs at 4 amps.
There's a bit more, but I'll refrain.
I just wish the manual contained some warnings directed at us who
know little about motors and motor windings. It's pretty much all
there in the manuals, but I didn't get the significance of certain
parts over others.
The bright side is that Mariss doesn't abandon his customers and is
willing to try to come off of planet electron for a few minutes to
explain in layman's terms how to do it the right way....which in my
case is close to an hour of explaining.
Geckodrive just needs to add a few more "Drive's for Dummies"
sections to their manual but their customer support is beyond
compare and if I were in the position to rate it, it would receive
the highest possible that I could give.
Sean
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "audiomaker2000" <audiomaker@s...>
wrote:
Well, I just got off the phone with Mariss and I won't even go into
how much I did wrong, but suffice it to say that a couple things
were indeed wrong with my setup.
If you think Mariss knows alot from his posts on the board, then
don't call him unless you've taken your Ginko Galoba because you
will be saturated with information very quickly.
He was extremely helpful and hopefully the problems are resolved.
My only wish is that the manuals were a bit more explicit in what is
a "tune up" sort of thing and what is a "blow up" kind of thing.
For instance, I did not put the capacitor in the power line since
my leads are more than 18" from the power supply (didn't have any
handy), but I wrongly figured this was to somehow smooth out the
voltage but might only loose a bit of performace without
them...wrong... they are critical to the safety of the drive.
Another thing I learned from Mariss is that fuses between the DC
supply and the drive act as resistors and increase the need for this
cap.
To go on...
I also learned that when you use only 4 wires of a 6 wire motor,
that you are in essence changing it from a parallel configuration to
a series and need to limit the current. My understanding was that
the motor was rated at 8 amps from the factory, and that it was
series wired from the factory, meaning that it would require 8 amps
in the state it was in unless I *changed* the wiring so I didn't
have any current resistor in there....mistake. Not connecting those
two extra wires put my current needs at 4 amps.
There's a bit more, but I'll refrain.
I just wish the manual contained some warnings directed at us who
know little about motors and motor windings. It's pretty much all
there in the manuals, but I didn't get the significance of certain
parts over others.
The bright side is that Mariss doesn't abandon his customers and is
willing to try to come off of planet electron for a few minutes to
explain in layman's terms how to do it the right way....which in my
case is close to an hour of explaining.
Geckodrive just needs to add a few more "Drive's for Dummies"
sections to their manual but their customer support is beyond
compare and if I were in the position to rate it, it would receive
the highest possible that I could give.
Sean
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "audiomaker2000" <audiomaker@s...>
wrote:
> Man.. this day is *not* going well.210's.
>
> I just finished wiring up my Brideport Boss with my new Gecko
> I turn on the power.... Gecko 1 (X axis) LED glows dimmer than theand
> other two so I power off... re-check the connections and voltage
> power back on.... The drive is gone... no LED, no nothing.limit
> So, I figure I'll get back to that later and I start playing with
> the Z and Y axes...all is fine. Then I decide to wire up the
> switches so I power off the machine, but decide to move the Z axison
> which is very close to a limit for accessability so I power back
> to move the axis and WOWOWOW... My arc welder makes less sparks!
> I have no clue what is wrong here. My voltage is steady at 72vdc,
> everything seems to be wired correctly and I cannot detect any
> shorts. In any case, now the Z axis is cooked (literally), and it
> had worked fine not two minutes earlier.
>
> I'm going broke at this rate. (well, I was already broke)
>
> Sean (whimper)
Discussion Thread
audiomaker2000
2002-05-03 15:04:15 UTC
2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
audiomaker2000
2002-05-03 18:19:36 UTC
Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
art
2002-05-03 18:28:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-05-03 20:05:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Peter
2002-05-03 20:48:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
dave_ace_me
2002-05-03 21:00:32 UTC
fusing Gecko leads ( was Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Carol & Jerry Jankura
2002-05-03 22:21:26 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] fusing Gecko leads ( was Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Jon Elson
2002-05-03 22:45:14 UTC
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studleylee
2002-05-03 23:35:31 UTC
fusing Gecko leads ( was Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
studleylee
2002-05-03 23:39:42 UTC
fusing Gecko leads ( was Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
keongsan
2002-05-04 00:46:54 UTC
Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
keongsan
2002-05-04 00:59:12 UTC
Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Dan Mauch
2002-05-04 08:51:00 UTC
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audiomaker2000
2002-05-04 09:35:04 UTC
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audiomaker2000
2002-05-04 09:38:04 UTC
Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-05-04 10:11:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] fusing Gecko leads ( was Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-05-04 10:33:17 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] fusing Gecko leads ( was Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-05-04 11:23:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] fusing Gecko leads ( was Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Nicolas Benezan
2002-05-06 09:43:29 UTC
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pavel59
2002-05-06 16:12:02 UTC
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RC
2002-05-06 16:13:00 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-05-06 16:43:06 UTC
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studleylee
2002-05-06 17:16:48 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2002-05-06 18:33:11 UTC
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pavel59
2002-05-07 01:21:01 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-05-07 04:17:42 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-05-07 04:30:55 UTC
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pavel59
2002-05-07 05:23:20 UTC
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turbulatordude
2002-05-07 05:43:18 UTC
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Nicolas Benezan
2002-05-07 06:07:33 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2002-05-07 09:15:04 UTC
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keongsan
2002-05-07 19:41:35 UTC
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keongsan
2002-05-07 19:55:06 UTC
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mariss92705
2002-05-07 19:59:40 UTC
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2002-05-08 04:07:15 UTC
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2002-05-08 10:55:35 UTC
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mariss92705
2002-05-08 12:48:39 UTC
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2002-05-08 16:40:33 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-05-08 22:13:06 UTC
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mariss92705
2002-05-09 07:05:26 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-05-09 22:50:27 UTC
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