Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: 2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2002-05-08 22:13:06 UTC
mariss92705 wrote:
solder joints are in there.
ovens, but now I'm not so envious. Do you use glue dots to hold the
parts until reflow? Some of my boards have 800+ parts, so it would be a
nightmare!
0% component failure in the stuff I build. A VERY occasional component
failure in the field, other than obvious abuse, but almost 100% (I'd say,
maybe 99.75% if I had to assign a number) of all failures are soldering
problems or connectors that are not making proper contact.
the power output from the drive back to the test stand. This might not
actually be that hard.
Jon
>Yes, it's amazing that anything works when you figure out how many
> That means in 12 months over 1 million parts were assembled using
> 3.25 million solder joints.
solder joints are in there.
> Most problems are caught during microscope inspection of the driveYikes! I was envying you with your pick-and-place machine and soldering
> panels (12 drives per panel) as they come out of the conveyor oven.
> The failure rate per drive is about 10%, consisting of solder
> bridges, tombstoning of parts and parts that have flipped upside down
> during SMT placement. These errors are corrected using SMT rework
> equipment under a microscope.
ovens, but now I'm not so envious. Do you use glue dots to hold the
parts until reflow? Some of my boards have 800+ parts, so it would be a
nightmare!
> After the thru-hole parts are mounted and the drives are de-Hmmm, well power electronics is different, of course, but I have approximately
> panelized, they undergo initial electrical power-up. The failure rate
> here is about 3%, consisting of primarily of individual component
> failure. Again, these drives are reworked and retested. If they still
> don't work, (<<1%) they are trashed.
0% component failure in the stuff I build. A VERY occasional component
failure in the field, other than obvious abuse, but almost 100% (I'd say,
maybe 99.75% if I had to assign a number) of all failures are soldering
problems or connectors that are not making proper contact.
> These tests catch well over 99% of all problem drives. Some of theIf you wanted to be really inventive, you could build a test stand that recycles
> ones that get away (the 22) would have been caught by a 24 hour burn-
> in cycle. This however is not economical (cost vs. benefit) for the
> price range drive we manufacture. It would require at least 50 drives
> running continuously while consuming 250W each (load and drive
> dissipation). That's 12,500W 24 hours a day with no certainty that
> every bad drive would be caught.
the power output from the drive back to the test stand. This might not
actually be that hard.
Jon
Discussion Thread
audiomaker2000
2002-05-03 15:04:15 UTC
2 Fried G210's in a single day :-(
audiomaker2000
2002-05-03 18:19:36 UTC
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art
2002-05-03 18:28:26 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-05-03 20:05:29 UTC
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Peter
2002-05-03 20:48:05 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-05-03 21:00:32 UTC
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Carol & Jerry Jankura
2002-05-03 22:21:26 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-05-03 22:45:14 UTC
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studleylee
2002-05-03 23:35:31 UTC
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studleylee
2002-05-03 23:39:42 UTC
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keongsan
2002-05-04 00:46:54 UTC
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keongsan
2002-05-04 00:59:12 UTC
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Dan Mauch
2002-05-04 08:51:00 UTC
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audiomaker2000
2002-05-04 09:35:04 UTC
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audiomaker2000
2002-05-04 09:38:04 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-05-04 10:11:56 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-05-04 10:33:17 UTC
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Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-05-04 11:23:46 UTC
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Nicolas Benezan
2002-05-06 09:43:29 UTC
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pavel59
2002-05-06 16:12:02 UTC
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2002-05-06 16:13:00 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-05-06 16:43:06 UTC
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studleylee
2002-05-06 17:16:48 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2002-05-06 18:33:11 UTC
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pavel59
2002-05-07 01:21:01 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-05-07 04:17:42 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-05-07 04:30:55 UTC
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2002-05-07 05:23:20 UTC
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2002-05-07 05:43:18 UTC
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2002-05-07 06:07:33 UTC
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2002-05-07 09:15:04 UTC
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2002-05-07 19:41:35 UTC
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2002-05-07 19:55:06 UTC
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2002-05-07 19:59:40 UTC
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2002-05-08 04:07:15 UTC
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2002-05-08 10:55:35 UTC
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2002-05-08 12:48:39 UTC
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2002-05-08 16:40:33 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-05-08 22:13:06 UTC
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mariss92705
2002-05-09 07:05:26 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-05-09 22:50:27 UTC
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