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Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input?

Posted by Ray
on 2001-03-20 07:55:08 UTC
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:49:45 -0600
From: "William Scalione" <wscalione@...>

<s>I have some Kollmorgan +/- 10V servo amps, but the Geckos accomplish the
>same thing for $129.00/axis. I'll hold those Kollmorgans for another
>project.

I was wishing that you wanted to unload them. ;) But, (AND THIS IS NO
REFLECTION ON GECKO! I LIKE THEIR PRODUCTS!) they do NOT do the
same thing. No way! No how! Whole other world! Pardon the scream but I
had to know that you are listening 'cause I like Mariss.

Kollmorgan controls velocity, Gecko controls position. Jon has it just
right in the post of his.

<snipped from Jon E>
The advantage to a true velocity servo, straight from the computer, is that
the VELOCITY is not quantized by the resolution. So, at very slow speeds,
the motion remains smooth.
<eos>

Stepped servo motion like that produced by the Gecko 3-- series may
well be fine for may uses, but it can not replace velocity control. The
way most machine tool builders are getting around this and using digital
signals like step and direction is by using very high resolution count
encoders. I've replaced units that spit out 250k ppr and have heard of
encoders that put out 1M ppr. Big bucks! These kinds of position
resolutions will approximate velocity control using drives like the Gecko
but they will not equal it.

And the 320 geckodrive has a max step rate around 250 Khz which would mean
60 RPM max on the encoder unit I have here. Nice resolution, but slow.
And EMC, at least isn't near ready to put out that many pps from a pure
software solution -- can't say about the other low cost cnc systems

Ray

Discussion Thread

Donald Brock 2001-03-18 15:20:58 UTC Can CNCPro users provide some input? Doug Harrison 2001-03-18 18:16:09 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Can CNCPro users provide some input? ozzietwo2001@y... 2001-03-18 20:56:17 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Donald Brock 2001-03-18 22:45:49 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? tauseef 2001-03-18 22:47:53 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? tauseef 2001-03-18 23:02:00 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tim Goldstein 2001-03-19 00:54:23 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Jeff Demand 2001-03-19 04:16:59 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Can CNCPro users provide some input? Ray 2001-03-19 05:02:58 UTC Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ozzietwo2001@y... 2001-03-19 06:24:19 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Ken n Donna Ballou 2001-03-19 06:49:38 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 08:23:59 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 08:27:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 08:29:53 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 08:32:32 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tom Eldredge 2001-03-19 08:35:24 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Joe Vicars 2001-03-19 08:39:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 08:39:27 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 08:47:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? dougrasmussen@c... 2001-03-19 09:08:24 UTC GE Mark Century...Fagor 8000...connection between the two? Tim Goldstein 2001-03-19 09:21:46 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tim Goldstein 2001-03-19 09:26:15 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tim Goldstein 2001-03-19 09:33:08 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cadman@p... 2001-03-19 09:37:34 UTC EMC on Windows NT? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 10:03:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Joe Vicars 2001-03-19 10:05:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tim Goldstein 2001-03-19 10:08:02 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] EMC on Windows NT? cadman@p... 2001-03-19 10:44:41 UTC Re: EMC on Windows NT? Jon Elson 2001-03-19 11:40:16 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] EMC on Windows NT? Jon Elson 2001-03-19 11:48:56 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] EMC on Windows NT? ozzietwo2001@y... 2001-03-19 12:49:23 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? William Scalione 2001-03-19 12:57:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 13:42:05 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-19 13:43:26 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? William Scalione 2001-03-19 13:49:34 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tom Eldredge 2001-03-20 06:37:59 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Ray 2001-03-20 07:55:08 UTC Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-20 08:21:13 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-20 09:07:14 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Alan Marconett KM6VV 2001-03-20 11:16:25 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? William Scalione 2001-03-20 12:08:25 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Jon Elson 2001-03-20 12:34:22 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-20 14:15:48 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? William Scalione 2001-03-20 15:21:55 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Smoke 2001-03-20 16:21:25 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Doug Harrison 2001-03-20 17:17:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? imserv@v... 2001-03-20 18:41:32 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? imserv@v... 2001-03-20 18:55:10 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? dave engvall 2001-03-20 19:11:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Smoke 2001-03-20 20:14:30 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Matt Shaver 2001-03-20 20:35:28 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Jon Elson 2001-03-20 22:39:29 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-20 23:48:40 UTC Re: GE Mark Century...Fagor 8000...connection between the two? ballendo@y... 2001-03-20 23:58:18 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-21 00:04:21 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-21 00:07:01 UTC Re: EMC on Windows NT? ballendo@y... 2001-03-21 01:30:17 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-21 02:34:56 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Wally Daniels 2001-03-21 05:04:00 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: GE Mark Century...Fagor 8000...connection between the two? Ray 2001-03-21 06:38:10 UTC Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Ray 2001-03-21 06:38:13 UTC Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tom Eldredge 2001-03-21 07:25:36 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tom Eldredge 2001-03-21 07:25:45 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:18:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:18:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:23:19 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:25:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:26:10 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:30:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:32:34 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:36:03 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:36:22 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-21 08:55:25 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Carlos Guillermo 2001-03-21 09:18:03 UTC including snippets in replies Ray 2001-03-21 11:44:05 UTC Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Jon Elson 2001-03-21 13:32:22 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Smoke 2001-03-21 20:52:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Smoke 2001-03-21 20:54:48 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Jon Elson 2001-03-21 21:24:19 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 07:24:49 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 07:29:25 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 07:34:24 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 08:32:53 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 08:43:33 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 08:47:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 08:50:29 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 08:51:02 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 08:51:20 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 08:56:26 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 09:11:36 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 09:16:30 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 09:25:12 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 09:41:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Brian Pitt 2001-03-22 09:50:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 09:54:56 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 10:03:47 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 10:07:29 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Tim Goldstein 2001-03-22 10:17:29 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 11:01:40 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 11:02:49 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Ray 2001-03-22 11:06:25 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 11:08:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 11:10:06 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 11:15:28 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 11:17:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Alan Marconett KM6VV 2001-03-22 12:27:32 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? cnc002@a... 2001-03-22 13:19:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Smoke 2001-03-22 13:33:28 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Ray 2001-03-22 15:05:01 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? Alan Marconett KM6VV 2001-03-22 15:45:22 UTC Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-22 17:03:10 UTC mechanical axis switches wasRe: Can CNCPro... Smoke 2001-03-22 21:58:54 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] mechanical axis switches wasRe: Can CNCPro... cnc002@a... 2001-03-24 16:02:10 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input? ballendo@y... 2001-03-24 20:55:07 UTC mechanical axis switches wasRe: Can CNCPro... Smoke 2001-03-25 09:48:30 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] mechanical axis switches wasRe: Can CNCPro... wanliker@a... 2001-03-25 18:05:22 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Can CNCPro users provide some input?